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Author Topic: Armstrong off road!  (Read 9601 times)

Dennis

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Re: Armstrong off road!
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2003, 05:56:16 am »
well, it looks like Lance is totally under the hammer. losing time two days in a row to Ullrich.
If Lance isn't careful and doesn't ride better, he will surely lose yellow tomorrow.
this morning he said he got completely dehydrated during the tt. he seems to be having his share of problems this year, but is still hanging on, if only by the skin of his nose.
tomorrow should be another interesting day.
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Re: Armstrong off road!
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2003, 06:27:51 am »
I'm afraid it's all over for Lance. (well, not afraid, but anyway). After loosing the time trail to Ullrich and not making a good time compared to Vinokourov, I expected Vinokourov to beat Lance in today's course that much that Vino would ware yellow tomorrow. But never thought that Jan could beat Lance climbing.

Not only did Lance never lose a time trail to anybody (except Botero last year), but never Ullrich beat him in a climbing stage.

Indurain lost his attempt to win The Tour for the fifth time also in time trails, wich before he allways won.



Tomorrow I'm going to ride my own climbing trail, in the south of Holland where our highest Dutch mountain lies: 300 meters! (in fact ít's remarkable that there were very good Dutch climbers in the past : Rooks, Winnen, Zoetemelk, van Velden, Theunisse etc).



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Re: Armstrong off road!
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2003, 11:03:46 am »
hopefully its not quite over yet. if this dehydration thing is true, Lance should be alright tomorrow, but they keep saying things like that and Jan keeps moving up on him and beating him.
Lance has always said that Ullrich is his biggest competition, and now that Ullrich has adopted Lance's technique of lower gears and higher tempo he is capable of beating him.
there are interesting articles on www.olntv.com
seems the guys that have won 5 all say that the 5th was by far the toughest to win, and Lance certainly is finding that to be true as he tries to do the same thing.

btw, Miguel Indurain Larraya won 5 Tours de France in a row, the only person who ever did that. His lung capacity was over 30% bigger than any of his competitors and his resting heart rate was 36 bpm. pretty amazing!! also, that last tt that was the only one he lost, he had a very high fever the night before.
have fun watching the next stage.
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Re: Armstrong off road!
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2003, 01:40:11 pm »
boy i dunno, after today Lance will need to dig a little deeper, if he has any left.

there are three more days in the mtns and another time trial.  Lance looks beaten. he was unable to go with the last break.

in the past he was a lion out there. he has been hunted this year and looks it.

hopefully he can recover fully from his dehydation




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Re: Armstrong off road!
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2003, 01:49:11 pm »
Saturday was a bit depressing for me after I saw Armstrong suffering so much. He even lost a couple more seconds to Ullrich. Sunday, he seemed more in control, and proved he is still the man to beat. I think he can still win this tour, and beat Ullrich in the next time trial. Monday's stage, like saturday's and sunday's should also be very exciting , and perhaps Armstrong will make his move.

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Re: Armstrong off road!
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2003, 06:00:17 am »
Bite your tounge!! >:(  WATCH TODAY'S STAGE!! :o
I won't spoil anything, just watch the stage. ;D
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Re: Armstrong off road!
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2003, 06:12:07 am »
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Bite your tounge!! >:(  WATCH TODAY'S STAGE!! :o
I won't spoil anything, just watch the stage. ;D


okay then i won't spoil it either.

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Re: Armstrong off road!
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2003, 09:04:19 am »
darn, guess I won't spoil it either. but, I told you so.
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Re: Armstrong off road!
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2003, 06:32:13 pm »
when can we start spoiling again?

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Re: Armstrong off road!
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2003, 02:39:29 am »
 [smiley=laughing.gif]Now would be a good time...shame on all you Doubting Thomases...Lance found his "A" game!!
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Re: Armstrong off road!
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2003, 02:59:55 am »
Will 67 seconds be enough?
Great stage from Lance, I have to admit, but why the hell did Jan wait? I know Lance waited 2 years ago, but that was something completely different: the tour was decided at that moment and they were going down at that moment.
I think Jan could be very sorry next sunday.

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Re: Armstrong off road!
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2003, 06:59:06 am »
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Great stage from Lance, I have to admit, but why the hell did Jan wait? I know Lance waited 2 years ago, but that was something completely different: the tour was decided at that moment and they were going down at that moment.
I think Jan could be very sorry next sunday.

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Because Jan is a class act.  Besides, Jan would look like an idiot since Lance and Co. waited for him when he flatted in the 1st mountain pass.

I think what Mayo did was not classy.  Sucked on Jan's wheel then outsprinted him to the finish.  Mayo is not in contention anymore.  He should have let Jan get the bonus points so that the race between Lance and Jan would be closer.  

Regardless of whether Jan wins or loses, maybe he'll show up at Whister and hit the downhill slopes like he did last year.

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Re: Armstrong off road!
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2003, 07:03:55 am »
yeah, I agree, Jan waited because he is a class act. also, did you see Tyler go up and yell at the guys to wait?
I think its great that in at least one sport, they only want to win against their competitor's A-game. No winning by default if something out of their control happens to the competition.Its something that young people today should learn from. Its worth much more when you know you beat the other guy when he was at his best. Win at all costs is for losers, IMHO.
anyway, I think Lance will find an air-conditioned room to warm up for the last time trial, and will finish close enough to Jan to take his 5th TdF in a row, and tie Indurain.
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Re: Armstrong off road!
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2003, 08:57:06 am »
 ;) You spoiled it for me!  ;)
Just kidding!
I cant wait for Lance to start turning up the heat.
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Re: Armstrong off road!
« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2003, 09:32:35 am »
i was watching it on OLN in the morning and woke up the neighborhood when Lance fell  :o

it was a class act and a good showing of etiquette. Tyler Hamilton slowed the chase group, although Lance was not that far behind.

He became the hunter again, yesterday. I like Jan, I can relate more to him in physique as well as Hincapie. Jan had to pull by himself after Lance left the chase group and no one there would work with him.  That did hurt Jan.

This race is not done, though, but I do think Lance has the upper hand now.

Also, noticed that the race has been won my mostly French and adjacent countries.. Ireland, Netherlands, Denmark and US.