Author Topic: Hydraulic RIM brakes (Read 5923 times)

bike kid · « **on:** June 18, 2009, 09:30:48 pm »

On Saturday, I saw the coolest thing ever, hydraulic rim brakes!!!! I say they're all for the thought, and not for performance, but they would still be cool to have. Does anyone know where I could get a set?

orange · « **Reply #1 on:** June 18, 2009, 11:50:50 pm »

you mean Maguras (that have been around for 20 odd years)?

4500_rider · « **Reply #2 on:** June 19, 2009, 01:23:59 am »

And to add to that... Magura HS33's leave nothing to be desired in terms of performance! You can get them almost anywhere... eBay... CRC... your LBS

Colin · « **Reply #3 on:** June 19, 2009, 02:33:01 am »

Yep! Maguras have been around for ages, but then again I thought they were a new thing when I bought my XP-X in 1998!
They've worked super good since then, no probs and the blocks are a piece of wee-wee to change.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=9488
I'd have to say that whilst they are good, a well set up pair of XT/Avid V brakes seem to work just as well on my other bikes and are probably lighter, but the "Maggies" seem to need slightly less lever pressure on long descents, so less tiring.

Col.

orange · « **Reply #4 on:** June 19, 2009, 03:07:44 am »

Unless he means these lesser known Starbike hydraulic V's?

shovelon · « **Reply #5 on:** June 19, 2009, 06:38:52 am »

Quote from: orange on June 19, 2009, 03:07:44 am

Unless he means these lesser known Starbike hydraulic V's?

Oh no you dint!!!!!

That is the coolest thing I've seen in a while.

orange · « **Reply #6 on:** June 19, 2009, 02:03:14 pm »

don't work very well, though, from what I hear anyway...

IMO · « **Reply #7 on:** June 20, 2009, 05:41:47 am »

Actually they do work well in the dry , if you fit decent blocks and spend time aligning them correctly. However, in the wet , and the mud they are very effective at gringing down your rims. Also they collect mud and crap real well as they work like scrapers and mud and leaves build round the pistons . I have a set in my bedroom ( silver HS 33's) gathering dust as i went for juicy 5's and used a 3mm steel plate to mount the caliper on the rear of my FS.

orange · « **Reply #8 on:** June 20, 2009, 08:21:44 am »

I meant the starbike ones. I know Maguras work well - they're great (once fitted - bit fiddly).

bike kid · « **Reply #9 on:** June 20, 2009, 12:17:15 pm »

yeah, its the magura's that I saw, the guy said that they were a little finicky, but did the job. Do they work any better than conventional cable rim brakes?

thanks for the help,
Bike kid

orange · « **Reply #10 on:** June 20, 2009, 02:19:47 pm »

yes - they are fantastic and once set up you can forget about them. They are fiddly to set up the first place though, you need about 5 arms. Changing pads is very very simple though. Get some!

TheRo0sTer · « **Reply #11 on:** June 20, 2009, 10:25:46 pm »

I loved the set I had. You didn't have to worry about about cable stretch and when you pulled the levers you didn't have to pull super hard to stop like cable brakes.

purple gerbil · « **Reply #12 on:** June 21, 2009, 11:12:36 am »

I MAYBE OLD FASHIONED BUT YE CANT BEAT A WELL SET UP V-BRAKE!!

ON BOTH MY BIKE'S YA CAN PULL THE FRONT BRAKE AND GO STRAIGHT OVER THE BAR'S...........YEEEEEE HAAAAA......GRAVEL RASH!!

DugB · « **Reply #13 on:** June 21, 2009, 08:55:48 pm »

Quote from: purple gerbil on June 21, 2009, 11:12:36 am

I MAYBE OLD FASHIONED BUT YE CANT BEAT A WELL SET UP V-BRAKE!!

ON BOTH MY BIKE'S YA CAN PULL THE FRONT BRAKE AND GO STRAIGHT OVER THE BAR'S...........YEEEEEE HAAAAA......GRAVEL RASH!!

Err...I know how to set up a rim brake with my eyes closed, and spent several years at a bike shop cranking out new builds for the showroom floor, all of which had v-brakes (standard and parallel travel)...and none of those systems came close to the new HS33's I have on my 4000/5000 bike. In all fairness, I do have the braided stainless hoses and machined aluminum boosters with the EVO2 mounts...but whatever the setup the Maguras blow away even the best v/rim brakes in braking strength (pad force at the rim), smooth travel and stiffness...I mean, trials riders, who need solid brakes, are one of the biggest audiences for hydraulic rim brakes. Also, there are a ton of pad stickiness and density options for Magura brake blocks.

Even if you're in the US CRC is a great place to buy complete HS33 setups. I scored a new HS33 "herzblut" setup a few weeks ago for around $160 US (or something like that) shipped...over the standard HS33 setup it came with the CNC machined levers, CNC machines brake boosters and a hat even my wife says looks good on me.

- Doug :-)

purple gerbil · « **Reply #14 on:** June 22, 2009, 10:05:52 am »

WHOA THERE!! I AINT CALLING MAG'S CRAP OR OWT JUST PERSONALLY PREFER V-BRAKES TO MAG'S & DISC...

IVE OWNED ALL TYPE'S OF BRAKE AND THOUGHT MAG'S WERE GREAT!!
HAD THEM ON MY 12" MASTER WHICH I CONVERTED FROM A SHITE U-BRAKE...

DISC'S I JUST CANT JUSTIFY THE COST....

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