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Author Topic: 856 Springs  (Read 7248 times)

AndySV1K

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856 Springs
« on: January 08, 2008, 05:14:02 am »
Can anyone help me with getting springs for my 856.

I have my bike in bits and want to get it back together ASAP

I cant seem to get a response from Rapid Descent ive been trying for a few weeks now.

Anyone else got some for sale, or know where there is some?

My last resort may be Risses racing but i cant really afford this option at the moment.

Thanks

Andy.
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Re: 856 Springs
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2008, 07:23:27 am »
try posting over on www.retrobike.co.uk there may be somebody there who has some lying around. I know there are quite a few Proflex owners there.
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AndySV1K

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Re: 856 Springs
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2008, 07:48:35 am »
Thanks Orange,

Ive posted a wanted ad there.

In the meantime...... anyone else??  :-\

Andy.
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Re: 856 Springs
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2008, 12:47:41 pm »
hi
spotted this little lot on ebay.com (u.s.a) not sure if these will fit a 856 but as soon
as one of the guys read this im sure they will comment. sell on what you dont need and get some cash back.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Noleen-Girvin-Springs-and-Shocks-Parts-Lot-NOS-K2_W0QQitemZ110211710612QQihZ001QQcategoryZ36135QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


this must deserve a karma point??
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Re: 856 Springs
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2008, 01:04:31 pm »
thats the mother lode
listen up
WE need to get that stuff.I have talked with Callum before about buying some of this stuff and making available for a fair price to the forum.I am talking with a guy in the UK re some shocks.The question is of course how/who/where.I am willing to go halves or thirds or quarters in this stuf and having it stored at someones place until it goes to someone on the forum...if it becomes a drag then maybe we can sell it or someone else can step up to buy a share.....Perhaps it can even become a spring library where springs can be swapped for the desired weight.I would say the springs would be appicable for ods,gdt and noleen shock....what say you????I would do it myself but as I am on the other side of the world shipping becomes a problem.
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Re: 856 Springs
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2008, 01:09:12 pm »
in the meantime Andy do you know what spring you need(ie rate)

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Re: 856 Springs
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2008, 01:14:16 pm »
I have a feeling the Noleen springs are a different size to the ODS ones (longer and thinner diameter?)
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Re: 856 Springs
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2008, 01:15:32 pm »
also those Noleen springs are too light for rear use at 200-225lbs aren't they? That's what you'd have up front surely?
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Re: 856 Springs
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2008, 02:19:56 pm »
Can anyone help me with getting springs for my 856.

I have my bike in bits and want to get it back together ASAP

I cant seem to get a response from Rapid Descent ive been trying for a few weeks now.

Anyone else got some for sale, or know where there is some?

My last resort may be Risses racing but i cant really afford this option at the moment.

Thanks

Andy.

Stick with RDS, I'm sure Callum will respond when he's back from holiday.
This is definately the most economic way to "spring" back to life an older MCU bike.
Usually, the way you can tell if he is working is if there are prices against the items in his shop, if you can't see them, then he's not selling.

Yep, 200 to 250lb springs for front and 250 to 450 for the back of a strut bike (x56/57)

The coil springs on the Speedspring converted ODS on my XP-X (856) are 88mm long but this is dependant on the spring conversion "top hats" that you use. Obviously Callum's set will all work together. I use a 200lb on front and a 350lb on rear, virtually the same as the RDI set, I weigh 90 - 95Kg.

A front NR-5 smartshock takes a (maximum length) 91mm spring, whilst a rear one will take a 95mm coil.

A rear NR-4 can use a 90 to 110 mm coil

A rear NR-2 can use a 100 to 115mm coil.

I am pretty sure that the internal and external diameters are the same for all of them.

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Re: 856 Springs
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2008, 02:25:53 am »
hi
spotted this little lot on ebay.com (u.s.a) not sure if these will fit a 856 but as soon
as one of the guys read this im sure they will comment. sell on what you dont need and get some cash back.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Noleen-Girvin-Springs-and-Shocks-Parts-Lot-NOS-K2_W0QQitemZ110211710612QQihZ001QQcategoryZ36135QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


this must deserve a karma point??


A very good find, if i knew how to give karma i surely would!

looks an interesting buy, but... depends if they ship to UK and also depends if they are useful springs.  They are the last few that never sold, so does that mean they are the ones no one wants or needs.

I havnt got a clue what spring rate or size i need for my 856, so i wouldnt be too confident that just buying stuff off ebay like that would solve my problem.

I thought it would be straightforward to get an old bike going again!  >:(

Probably a good thing that im not restoring the old Kirk revolution thats sat in my garage!

Andy.
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Re: 856 Springs
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2008, 08:42:40 am »
ive got a spring sat in front of me that i used to have on my old xpx which had an noleen shock fitted its dimensions are 115mm long, 31mm id, 47.5mm od i dont know what the weight of it is but its free if you want it.
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AndySV1K

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Re: 856 Springs
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2008, 10:04:54 am »
i'd gladly take that off your hands!! :o

The XPX is very similar to 856 isnt it? not sure about the noleen shock though, does anyone know if it would work?

Is it front or rear?

Andy.
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Re: 856 Springs
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2008, 10:55:41 am »
looks like Colin's answer above might help. if not he'll know the answer
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AndySV1K

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Re: 856 Springs
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2008, 11:53:24 am »
I really should read before posting.

 :D

Looks like your spring may not be  the one for me after all as i dont have a noleen shock.

thanks for the offer anyway though, much appreciated.

Andy.
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Re: 856 Springs
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2008, 12:51:45 pm »
Andy

I have an NR2 that was on my 957 that I'm keeping as a spare for if/when my risse needs servicing. It weeps a little oil, but you could borrow it until you get properly sorted, get you riding short term, and you are only just down the road.

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