comments on Manitou Black Elite fork?

[Dennis]

after deciding that a set of Fox forks for my hardtail would cost too much, I found a pair of 2003 Manitou Black Elite 80/100 mm travel forks for 270 USD. seemed like a decent deal, so I ordered them.
does anyone have anything good or bad to say about them?
reviews on mtbr.com are mostly good, but mixed.
thanks for any comments  you have.
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[jedoaks]

I would have choosen either the Fox or a Z1. The 2003 Z1's are being closed out at great prices. Rich

[Dennis]

Rich,
the Z1's have waaay too much travel for my ht frame.
but thanks for reminding me about Marzocchi and Supergo. found a good deal on a Marathon SL fork there, will cancel manitou order and go for the zoke.

[numbnuts]

Dennis, I think that was a good choice. I like the Black fork but seems to be undersprung, I have a friend who is relatively light and he still finds it too soft with the 'heavy' spring.