Author Topic: Server storage failure (Read 9867 times)

GrimJack · « **on:** May 08, 2011, 07:30:04 pm »

The nice new storage I installed for the server last month promptly failed miserably late last night in the middle of upgrading to the newest version of linux.

We're back online, however, the last working data backup was from several weeks ago, so anything posted since mid April is forever lost in the vortex.

I'm still working on a bunch of little things, but all the big stuff should work by now.

Willie_B · « **Reply #1 on:** May 08, 2011, 08:30:22 pm »

I saw it was down for awhile. Then looked wonky when it first came back up.

No good deed goes un-punished you know.

GrimJack · « **Reply #2 on:** May 08, 2011, 09:02:27 pm »

Evidently not! Damn, I'm tired... been at this for 21 hours, and I haven't slept for ~36. Going to crash into a nice comfortable bed in very short order.

fyrstormer · « **Reply #3 on:** May 09, 2011, 12:01:03 am »

I gotta ask: does the server have a RAID array of any sort? Even a simple two-disk mirror would prevent a disk failure from wiping out the database.

shovelon · « **Reply #4 on:** May 09, 2011, 07:46:58 am »

It's looking pretty good to me.

Thanks for your work.

Terry

mootsguy · « **Reply #5 on:** May 09, 2011, 10:24:40 am »

Aw rats, I had just posted my very best post ever ---

GrimJack · « **Reply #6 on:** May 09, 2011, 11:14:23 am »

Quote from: fyrstormer on May 09, 2011, 12:01:03 am

I gotta ask: does the server have a RAID array of any sort? Even a simple two-disk mirror would prevent a disk failure from wiping out the database.

Not even close! This entire server runs on an old box hidden under a desk, built using spare parts. No RAID support at all - this is absolutely not commercial grade equipment.

orange · « **Reply #7 on:** May 09, 2011, 11:23:32 am »

Just glad we've still got a community here, what's a bit of data loss between friends

whisperdancer · « **Reply #8 on:** May 09, 2011, 05:43:45 pm »

Keep up the good work, man.

For me, it's incredible after 14 years the last Pro-Flex model came out, there is a comunity like the one we have right now.

Shaitaan · « **Reply #9 on:** May 09, 2011, 09:32:30 pm »

no worries, things like this happen....being one of the newbs to the forums, all the picss and stories I have added since joining are lost, oh well...Cest La vie...well, at least the pics I can re-add

Colin · « **Reply #10 on:** May 11, 2011, 03:53:55 am »

Can I risk sounding ungrateful and ask why we aren't hosted somewhere in a commercial data centre?

Maybe "commercial" is the give away, i.e. a charge would be involved, but surely the limited amount of storage we need is not so great that we couldn't get free hosting somewhere?

Or am I missing something?

Top marks to those that keep this site running, but I'm just concerned that it will all collapse irretrievably one day.

Col.

w2zero · « **Reply #11 on:** May 11, 2011, 04:51:44 pm »

True that.. If for some horrendous reason we couldn't get in touch, there is a Proflex group on facebook, proflex mtn bikes, as a fallback or work around.

GrimJack · « **Reply #12 on:** May 12, 2011, 10:59:27 am »

Quote from: Colin on May 11, 2011, 03:53:55 am

Can I risk sounding ungrateful and ask why we aren't hosted somewhere in a commercial data centre?

Maybe "commercial" is the give away, i.e. a charge would be involved, but surely the limited amount of storage we need is not so great that we couldn't get free hosting somewhere?

Or am I missing something?

Top marks to those that keep this site running, but I'm just concerned that it will all collapse irretrievably one day.

Col.

It really comes down to picking what is important to us. In the world of internet hosting, there's one big tradeoff - well, one big one that we care about. There is either free, or no forced advertising. We tried the free route in the past, it was good for the first 6 months or so, then the hosting provider increased the ad content until it was more annoying than useful.

As for commercial grade gear, it's not so much the storage that costs there, it's the whole package - storage, processing power, data redundancy, software upgrades and support, bandwidth - and some of those are recurring costs, not just initial outlay. A small commercial server will cost $10k+ initially, plus the monthly charges for support and bandwidth. Anyone investing in something at this level is virtually always looking for ways to increase their revenue instead of ways to give away possible income.

And last but not least, even commercial solutions don't solve everything. Sure, you're protected from single point of failure, but you're still in danger from virus corruption, theft, natural disaster, and the like. The only good solution is improved data backups.

spikebender · « **Reply #13 on:** May 12, 2011, 08:48:09 pm »

They will rebuild, We can repost, And it WILL be great!!! People can ride again!!! lol

kiwi · « **Reply #14 on:** May 13, 2011, 03:33:40 am »

Quote from: spikebender on May 12, 2011, 08:48:09 pm

They will rebuild, We can repost, And it WILL be great!!! People can ride again!!! lol

we have been refugees before.it was built and we did come

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