Author Topic: removing brake pivot off carbon swingarm (Read 7090 times)

mightyDOB · « **on:** March 19, 2008, 04:42:01 pm »

evening all,

All my shiny new bits for my rebuild of my 4000 have turned up so should have a completely rebuilt machine by the weekend. I am upgrading to discs so I removed the Brake pivots from my rockshocks, and then moved on to the Carbon swing arm. Can the brake pivots be removed? They look like they can as they are shaped for a spanner but I don't want to bugger them up so I though I had better check with those in the know!

I have looked on the gallery but cant see any closeups of any examples.

Hope someone can help

4500_rider · « **Reply #1 on:** March 20, 2008, 10:47:55 am »

Yes... you can remove the brake pivots on your carbon swingarm... spanner will do the job fine!

mightyDOB · « **Reply #2 on:** March 21, 2008, 08:47:42 am »

Great stuff,

Will make it look a bit nicer, not to mention the massive wieght saving

cheers for thr reply!

Colin · « **Reply #3 on:** March 22, 2008, 08:45:24 am »

I expect that they will be threadlocked in place so might need a little persuading to crack the seal.

Carbon_Angus · « **Reply #4 on:** March 25, 2008, 03:44:30 pm »

yes there is threadlocker in those, i don't remember using a spanner, just a socket wrench (i think).god it was years ago....the wee holes will collect all your dust and gunk, think of it though as a trophy from your ride...lol

mightyDOB · « **Reply #5 on:** March 25, 2008, 05:27:45 pm »

cheers guys still have not got around to removing them to be honest, but will have a go and probably get some blanking bolts with a disc hose holder on one, as can see what you mean about it collecting crud

Hammer · « **Reply #6 on:** March 27, 2008, 04:25:40 am »

I think a few people drilled out the rivets and removed the bosses altogether... but I simply unscrewed them (the loctite was pretty stubborn). I then plopped a hose guide in one side and a rubber plug of some description -that i found laying around- in the other...

Take it easy,

Hammer

mightyDOB · « **Reply #7 on:** March 27, 2008, 12:25:43 pm »

sounds like something I could do very wrong drilling

so will only be unscrewing them. Just wish I could find some cheap plugs/hodeguides for the swingarm and forks. The only ones I have found are hope ones which cost £7 for a pair and I have spent enough on the bike over the last few weeks

Hammer · « **Reply #8 on:** March 27, 2008, 03:50:32 pm »

The one I used I got from Saab, they used zip ties with an additional mounting hole on the head of the tie that was pushed over captive bolts in the floor to hold the wiring looms in place ( I think).
Sadly I have no idea what the part number is... as they probably only cost a few cents each........ but if you search around for zipties online, you might find something similar..... far cheaper than hope.

Hammer.

Colin · « **Reply #9 on:** March 28, 2008, 10:24:03 am »

I was planning to remove the V brake posts and replace with nice good quality screws and on the brake side simply put a "P-Clip" to hold the hose.

Alternatively maybe this:
Cable Tie Base Screw fixing 10 x 15mm - Pk 10

http://www.technobots.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Cable_Tie_Bases_322.html#a1100_2d003

or this:

http://www.lindy.co.uk/screw-fixing-cable-tie-mount-up-to-7-6mm-cable-tie-width/40785.html

or this:

Plenty of cheap options out there!

Col.

jeffhop · « **Reply #10 on:** March 28, 2008, 11:30:09 am »

i used these on my oz http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=6233 cheap as chips, but you could also use these http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=2492 free delivery to the uk as well with crc.

mightyDOB · « **Reply #11 on:** March 28, 2008, 12:19:38 pm »

excellent thanks all thats more like it!, I have no idea why I could not find these while searching myself

The bolts are the main thing and much more reasonable at £1.99, my LBS has given me some "p-clips" so that should look nice and neat, although I like the idea of the cable tie based screw fixings if only they were in black.

next question then........

Is there a nice way of connecting hoses to the existing unused cable brake points on the down tube, I like to make you all work hard since your so good at finding the answers

cheers for the help

RhinoDave · « **Reply #12 on:** March 28, 2008, 04:47:34 pm »

This is a stateside location but at least it shows you several options to look for. Shipping may not be too bad for small bits.
http://www.jensonusa.com/store/sub/127-Cables++Housing.aspx?s=1690

kiwi · « **Reply #13 on:** March 29, 2008, 12:35:54 am »

i am sure there hose holders that fit cable stops.

Hammer · « **Reply #14 on:** March 29, 2008, 02:42:20 am »

To fit your brake hose through the original cable guides you ca carefully file the slot in the cable guide a little wider then carefully pry the cable out a little wider (gently) the brake hose should just pop into plae, then carefully crimp the cable up a little to stop the hose popping out of the cable guide.
Ideally you should drill out the rivets that hold the cable guides onto the frame and file them out... but if you are careful filing, prying and bending it will be ok.

The plastic cable guide on the swingarm can be heated with a hairdryer, or hot air gun bend it open pass the hose through and bend it back again. Obvious warnings when using a hot air gun close to your carbon fibre swingarm etc..... My first one I just filed the plastic ends of the cable guide as with the ones on the downtube..... but on the second bike I used a hairdryer.... much easier.

Hammer

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