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Author Topic: How can this work?!?!?  (Read 7170 times)

willem

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Re: How can this work?!?!?
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2007, 02:35:01 pm »
If you can get to the gallery for "Frankd3000" he's the guy. Very nice work on some adapters.

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Re: How can this work?!?!?
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2007, 03:38:38 pm »
Ah yes, Andrew in Canada(Frankd3000). During the spamming, he got locked out of the forum. Anyway he made these "Mula" (modified upper link adapters) for cane creek cloud nine shocks. Really nice work he did.

Will, Bob's your Uncle? Love it. That is a good idea, never thought of modifying the shock.

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Re: How can this work?!?!?
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2007, 03:41:22 pm »
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I believe the problem here is pivoting, as I don't believe that one screw and two nuts will tight the shock enough...
The slot is just an open slot:



For this to work, the adapter should be rotated 90 degrees.
That's me thinking.

And invert the shock so the resevior is not hanging to the side.
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Re: How can this work?!?!?
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2007, 06:10:06 pm »
yes i remember a thread that a guy made an adapter,a protpe then the real thing,really tidy little uit,made from a block of alloy.
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Re: How can this work?!?!?
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2007, 10:53:34 am »
Well holy friggin' crap! No wonder i couldn't log on all this time - my password was changed. (and the friggin' Smiley don't work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GRRRRR!!!!)

Anyways - HEY GUYS!

Whisperdancer - you know what? I don't get it either. I suspect that whoever made that adaptor just tightened the holy bejesus out of it to keep it inplace. IMHO, a good way to break things and/or possibly injur one's self.

The adaptors I made were for use with the conical (tapered) struts ONLY. You might notice that most attempts with an adaptor here are ones with a flat bottom that use a single bolt to hold it all together - NOT a very good idea! The key problem here is that you're relying on the strength of that bolt to keep it all together. Don't get me wrong here, i'm not saying it doesn't work, but it's not nearly as stout as using something made to specifically fit the conical shape where it mates to the strut. At the very least a stack of washers underneath the adaptor block should be used to take some of the load, but it's still not anywhere near as strong as having the proper mating shape.

With regards to the adaptors I made - I blueprinted the original taper on my Noleen shock to make something that I wouldn't have to worry about. If it was good enough to work in the first place then I was determined to follow suit. Once I had the numbers I needed I made a test piece, I tesed it and it was never a problem, no matter how much I tried to beat the crap out of Frank (yes, Frank is fine ..... just sleeping). The "rotation" is set to 90*. The 45* never worked as good because you were still leaving room for the shock to play in a direction where it was possible, which is definetly not desired.


Bonus points to Terry (shovelon) for remembering the MULA (Machined Upper Link Adaptor). While it was for adapting a shock to a CrossLink i'm still incredibly flattered that someone remembered it.
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Re: How can this work?!?!?
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2007, 04:31:09 pm »
Who could forget the MULA?  It was the insperation for my adapters.  I still need to take pics.
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Re: How can this work?!?!?
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2007, 08:10:35 pm »
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Well holy friggin' crap! No wonder i couldn't log on all this time - my password was changed. (and the friggin' Smiley don't work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GRRRRR!!!!)


good to see you made it,most of the smileys do work now..... [smiley=nod.gif]
ps i only changed the password last night when i saw the post about you being blocked,i thought i would try to log on as you ,but of course i had to change your password to something that I knew...I logged on with no probs....dont forget to change it to your own one...
« Last Edit: February 18, 2007, 08:13:07 pm by kiwi »
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Re: How can this work?!?!?
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2007, 08:32:10 am »
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good to see you made it,most of the smileys do work now..... [smiley=nod.gif]
ps i only changed the password last night when i saw the post about you being blocked,i thought i would try to log on as you ,but of course i had to change your password to something that I knew...I logged on with no probs....dont forget to change it to your own one...


Freaky timing!!!!!!!!!!! (nope, NO Smileys ..... oh well) No Gallery either, eh, kiwi?

Jazz - you STILL haven't taken pics?????? LOL! Oh well I guess I can't criticize. I sold two rear adaptors a while ago and never heard back from either buyer. (shrug) Hmmm, hope nothing happened to them!
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Re: How can this work?!?!?
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2007, 08:11:33 pm »
the gallery does still exist but i dont know where,one f the other guys might post a link to it.We still suffer from the after effects of the hacker(check help) and Dave has partially shut us down because the galleries and the files section were the way in
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Re: How can this work?!?!?
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2007, 08:35:49 pm »
Heres a link to the gallery

http://idriders.com/proflex/galleries/
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Re: How can this work?!?!?
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2007, 07:47:18 am »
hi frankd3000,
your adapator is the best solution for my problem. i have a Proflex 857 and i want to replace the shock.
can you tell me:
- what kind of material you used for the adaptor?
- how long (eye-to-eye) is the Cloud Nine you have?
- how was made the adaptor? did you made it on a CNC machine?

thanks
Jorge

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Re: How can this work?!?!?
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2007, 08:01:54 am »
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The adaptors I made were for use with the conical (tapered) struts ONLY. You might notice that most attempts with an adaptor here are ones with a flat bottom that use a single bolt to hold it all together - NOT a very good idea!


Indeed, mine had a cone that fitted perfectly into the hole, still had to do the 45* thing though...
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Re: How can this work?!?!?
« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2007, 11:26:54 am »
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hi frankd3000,
your adapator is the best solution for my problem. i have a Proflex 857 and i want to replace the shock.
can you tell me:
- what kind of material you used for the adaptor?
- how long (eye-to-eye) is the Cloud Nine you have?
- how was made the adaptor? did you made it on a CNC machine?

thanks
Jorge


- 6061 T651 aluminum
- i2i was 6.5" with a 1.5" stroke ..... this was the closest thing I could find that would match what I already had
- I had one of my co-workers make some on a CNC lathe
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Re: How can this work?!?!?
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2007, 11:29:48 am »
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Indeed, mine had a cone that fitted perfectly into the hole, still had to do the 45* thing though...


(shrug) Don't know what to tell you. It doesn't make sense. The stays won't flex side-to-side enough to need to do it from what i've experienced. Strange.

How is you shock attached to your adaptor?
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Re: How can this work?!?!?
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2007, 11:32:31 am »
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Heres a link to the gallery

http://idriders.com/proflex/galleries/


Thanks.

Ahhhhh, memories. (insert winking smiley here)
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