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Author Topic: I like this bike test summary  (Read 6690 times)

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I like this bike test summary
« on: September 29, 2005, 09:53:14 am »
Just read this summary to a review of 5 bikes this mag considered to be near to perfection for there intended purpose,however I think the summary is very good and speaks not only sense but for all of us especially the last 2 lines  8),
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Re: I like this bike test summary
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2005, 04:04:26 pm »
How true.
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Re: I like this bike test summary
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2005, 01:16:37 am »
which mag was that in?  I'd be interested to see what they reviewed because I'm looking for just such a holy grail bike.  I keep bidding on razorbacks on ebay and losing!

I think I will be forced to decommission my singlespeed razorback and turn it into my main ride bike and then use one of the proflex frames for singlespeed...

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Re: I like this bike test summary
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2005, 01:28:33 am »
Its What MTB and they where reviewing (not testing against each other) 5 bikes they had rated 10 out of 10, both on performance and value
they are
Scott Genius MC10  :P
Yeti 575  :P
Giant Reign  :P
Orange Patriot 66  :P
Whyte 46  :P
this is the first time I've bought this mag,have to say
its very good,no one sided blinkered views,just honest opinions given from more than one side of any discussion.
Simon
P.s Reading the reviews I think maybe the Scott Genius MC10 would be best suited for me,though I still have a soft spot for the Whyte 46,BUT THERE
IS ALSO and artical in there following Jon Whyte designing the new E-5,very interesting and I want one :P :P.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2005, 01:37:58 am by Simon »
856 FAUX BAR,Fox float,formula B4, Hope Ti,Raceface,FSA ISIS Ti,WTB Ti,Mega-air,XTR,Easton ct2,Easton monkey lite SL,Easton EA50,Goodridge Hoses,Eggbeaters,Ti bolts,DT swiss,

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Re: I like this bike test summary
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2005, 03:14:05 am »
Isn't the article relieving themselves of any disagreements anyone would have with their decision. That paragraph is only serving the purpose of placing there view in the middle of any argument anyone might have. Kind of like a liability agreement.
I find all to be true in this paragraph. As for the definite listing of which bikes are actually perfect is destroying every idea it introduces in the paragraph.
If the perfect bike depends solely on the rider, why list any bike at all. The magazine is doing nothing differently in my opinion. They are still play the role of public rep for the bicycle industry.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2005, 03:15:08 am by I_2_ionit »

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Re: I like this bike test summary
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2005, 03:37:28 am »
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Isn't the article relieving themselves of any disagreements anyone would have with their decision.


You would need to read the 5 related articals first because then you would have enough info in which to still agree/disagree with there findings irrespective of the summary,
I just found the summary to be well thought out but it wouldn't put me off disagreeing if I felt strongly enough regarding one or more of the reviews.
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Re: I like this bike test summary
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2005, 04:11:09 am »
Simon,

Picture this. Pick up a 99 or 2000 Evo frame. Alum triangle and swingarm. Weld stylish stiffener gussets into the toptube, headtube and downtube. Do likewise at the downtube, bottom bracket, and seatstay.

Add floating rear brake arm to triangle section and swingarm. Polish  triangle, red anodize the swingarm and brake arm.

Assemble with fox DHX 8.5 i2i x 2.5 stroke, and Maverick DUC 32 with 6 inches of travel. Carbon seatpost, bars, and crankset. Stan's olympic wheelset in black with Hope brakes and stan's alum rotor.

Dang that would be perty!

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Re: I like this bike test summary
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2005, 04:50:03 am »
Hi Simon,

mag reviews are ver useful as a guide but that is all they are - personal views of te journalists concerned.

Remember that What Mountainbike magazine is a sister magazine to MBUKand share many of the same editorial and testing staff. I would never consider MBUK to be the most qualified when it comes to objective reviews.

It just goes to show how true their words are at the end of the summary.

Sprucey

PS - "MY" OZ is the best Oz in the world - not yours or anyone esle's on this site!!!!  ;-)

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Re: I like this bike test summary
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2005, 04:56:55 am »
Terry
Damn that sounds sweeet,
we have similar idea's,
though I'd try and design in my own VPP system,
looked into a couple of designs but nothing I'm happy
with yet,
Hope floating rotors for me though  [smiley=laughing.gif] and red caliper inserts,Goodridge or Hope braided brake lines,
Red Hope headset and seat pin clamp,
don't know much about stan's wheelsets,
so maybe custom built wheelset, Hope hubs, DT swiss
spokes,unsure about rims,wanna get away from Mavic
(personal thing,their French),Oh I seem to like Hope
stuff :-[
Carbon parts, your spot on,
what about X.O mech and shifters ???
Simon  [smiley=beer.gif]
« Last Edit: September 30, 2005, 04:58:03 am by Simon »
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Re: I like this bike test summary
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2005, 05:00:56 am »
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Hi Simon,



Sprucey

PS - "MY" OZ is the best Oz in the world - not yours or anyone esle's on this site!!!!  ;-)


Thats because I did your sealed bearing conversion [smiley=laughing.gif]
and I haven't got an Oz anymore :( but I'm sure my
son will let me ride it once in a while 8)
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Re: I like this bike test summary
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2005, 06:47:19 am »
Hi Mate,

on a serious note the Oz is a great bike and does ride beautifully.

I am dialling in the Razorback to ride the way I like but it's still not there for "sharpness" in both climbing and single track descending.

I can't put my finger on it but it is down to the extra travel from your sealed bearing conversion, longer stroke shock and the pedal platform damping from the 5th Element.

The Oz is about to get stripped right down. The BB shell is now very loose and wobbly so I am going to take it to one of my hi--tech boat building friends to get it bonded back in.

I'll keep you posted.

Sprucey

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Re: I like this bike test summary
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2005, 06:56:39 am »
My bike is like beer:

The cold one in my hand is the best in the world!

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And the fact that I got it for free... well it just "tastes" that much better!

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Now if I could just stop pouring money into it... :-[

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Re: I like this bike test summary
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2005, 07:40:30 am »
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wanna get away from Mavic
(personal thing,their French)[smiley=beer.gif]


Darn it. Why did you have to remind me of that? I was blissfully enjoying my "Frog wheels" (Ksyriums on my road bike) until you said that. Now I'll be ashamed on every ride. Luckily, my Proflex has Bontrager wheels with DT Swiss or Hugi hubs (I can't remember which). Those aren't made in France are they?

Yet another reason to ride my MTB more than my road bike... 8)

PS
Speaking of my Bontragers, as part of tightening up my rickety rear on the Proflex, I just realized that my rear hub was very loose. Still smooth, luckily, but I can't believe it was that loose without me noticing. Now it's tight, and that, combined with a new layer of teflon tape on my shock bolts, makes my bike feel new again. No clunks, clicks, wobbles, or creaks. Now the only thing that's "loose" on the back end is the flexy carbon swingarm. Can't do much about that one. I laughed out loud recently when I read a review of the Cannondale Prophet that said it had a flexy back end. Compared to what I' m used to (my two 5000's), the Prophet was so much stiffer (laterally) that I thought something might be wrong with it! (Now I kind of wish my swingarm was tighter like that. Simon, does your sealed bearing conversion make it stiffer?
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Re: I like this bike test summary
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2005, 07:46:07 am »
Yes, Yes!

XO mech, and rocket halfpipes. Mutano raptor 2.4 front, Kenda Nevegal rear tires. Bontrager racelite tubes. Shadow stealth or carbon weave saddle, King hubs, with titanium bolt on skewer.

Helium pump kit for tires, shock and forks would round it out. (Yes, I am contemplating it).

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: I like this bike test summary
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2005, 09:22:59 am »
At the risk of being contentious, I like the French and I want to buy a place there and retire - although that may be a few years away yet!

Sprucey