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Author Topic: trigger vs twist shifters  (Read 5401 times)

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Re: trigger vs twist shifters
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2005, 02:34:53 am »
Ha!

My new gripshift centra 8 speed shifters came and I installed them last night. Not before I weighed the XTR triggers against them.

The set of gripshifts are 50, you heard right, 50 grams lighter than the XTRs. Now that was with extra lenth of cable to boot.

Then I went out for a ride to dial them in.  :-* [smiley=laughing.gif] [smiley=beer.gif]

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Re: trigger vs twist shifters
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2005, 09:20:46 am »
the problem with getting on-board this late in a thread is - do i have anything useful to add?

well, i dunno - but here goes.

had xt triggers on one of my earlier bikes, then went to twisters. basically because i didn't like the monopoly shimano had, didn't like how they were SO complex, and was a weight freak.

have stuck to them ever since. running x.o twisters and and x.o deraileur currently. however... i would like to upgrade the deraileur at some point [carbon cage version] and may well look at the x.o triggers at the same time.

my buddy at the local bike shop who is a primo mech has just recently done this, and i'll be catching up with him next week so will ask him what he thinks.

oh, and the braking/shifting issue - i've never experienced it. i just don't do those things at the same time, never have. it's all about anticipation...



good heavens, i've just noticed i have already responded to this question! some time ago it would seem  [smiley=laughing.gif]

So forgive me for doubling up  ;)
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Re: trigger vs twist shifters
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2005, 02:10:40 pm »
I'm twisty guy.  My brother had triggers.  I like twisty's better because:

1.  I can shift from 1st to 9th and 9th to 1st in one smooth action. (I too ride motorcycles)  They are like my Campy's on my road bike in this respect.

2.  Upshift as fast as Shimano, and down shift faster, which is more important to me.

3.  Way simpler design means more reliable, and easier/cheaper to maintain.

4.  I am anti-Shimano, and SRAM is a US company (even if they aren't made here).

Now I had Old 600s? on my Iorn Horse MT100, then the then new 9.0 shifter/derailuer put on my then brand new Proflex 2000.  Raced it for years and loved them.  And now I have X.0s on my 5500.  I love them, but I have a hard time setting up the shifting.  I find I have to dial in the rear derailuer while actually on the bike.  I think there is an issue with the hose length.  But I don't see accedentally shifting those things.  Being a sport biker I use my front brake pretty heavy, and brake with the oppisite hand I am shifting.  Or so I think . . .  Either way it works for me.  I'm a twisty guy.
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Re: trigger vs twist shifters
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2005, 02:18:32 pm »
Couldn't resist an update to my earlier statement about preferring twisters over triggers.

I decided to put triggers on my new bike and after about 3 months, I still prefer twisters!  I can't wait until one of them breaks or something...  
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Re: trigger vs twist shifters
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2005, 07:44:00 am »
Triggers!


I found the twists to use to much realestate on the bar and had to much play between shifts.
I had twisters on my first bike and thought I would never use anything else until I was introduced to the triggers on my K2.  never went back and never will.
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Re: trigger vs twist shifters
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2005, 03:40:00 am »
Hey Bill, I am sure you will break something real soon now. And I will help ya.

How is the kneecap?

So is Lance a trigger or twister?

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Re: trigger vs twist shifters
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2005, 04:03:00 am »
for what it's worth: I used to have twisters (X9), but on my new bike were (and are) triggers (XT). Triggers work well, but the twister lets you shift more up and down in one action, but more important: with twisters i had more control during high speed and technical rides, because you can keep your thumb firmly around the grip and still steer, brake and shift at the same time. Whe you shift with triggers using your thumb, your thumb isn't around the grip anymore and that feels less safe.
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Re: trigger vs twist shifters
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2005, 08:55:35 pm »
ive just put sram 9sl`s on the xpx i built up for my wife and they are soooo much better than the shimao deore. im now looking to put sram on my oz. maybe its just me but i like to be slapped into gear not dropped like shimano. the front shifter is far better when trying to tune out chain rub!! can anyone tell me if the trigger shifters are the same ie multi position?
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Re: trigger vs twist shifte
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2005, 09:12:22 am »
With the Deore LX triggers, you don't have the ability to do a quick "click" up or down if you find yourself dragging the chain across the front derailleur or something.  They made the barrel adjusters easy enough to use while you're pedaling, though.  You still get the adjustment, it's just a little more work.  
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Re: trigger vs twist shifters
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2005, 05:45:17 am »
i'm using the new sram xo trigger shifters (i broke my x9's so i broke my bank replacing them) and think they are the best shifter set i've ever tried-  they are surgical in precision.

while i've never really liked the grip shifters i notice that speed goat bicycles is building their custom bikes with sram trigger for the rear derailleur and a twister for the front.  i suppose for the 'trimming' that matno mentioned?  might be a good idea!
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