Changing cables - what about the ....

[kiwi]

i will have a look.I am certain i didnt have to use any zip ties to do this on my ol 756....

[Frankd3000]

Just because I was in a rush yesterday, I decided to just zip-tie the RD cable to the top of the s/arm.

Oh geez do these shifters ever work nice! Way bettern than the LX's they replaced. The full housing is a very nice upgrade, even if it's not through the s/arm (yet?). I like it - it stays.

Full housing for the rear brake - I can actually say the brakes fell like they have less friction. No, really. Very smooth. It's not the cable/housing, either. I was replacing a 2 month old XTR set. Very pleased with this. I like it, too - it stays.

Thanks for the help all, let me know about removing the tube inside the s/arm, eh?!

[Dennis]

I think the Nokon cables are actually HEAVIER, plus, the performance improvement is said to be minimal. Certainly not noticeably better than just buying new generic cables every 6-12 months (and about the same price over the life of the bike...) Of course, I'm getting this second hand, but that seems to be a consensus among those I know of...

Mat,
I don't have Nokon cables, but I do have the metawire cables (just about the same thing as the Nokons) on Blue Crush(Oz), Photon (Calfee carbon road bike), Momentum (giant carbon ht mtb), and Valkyrie (Trek steel  ht converted to tourer).

All my bikes have the metawires for shifting and brakes (cable discs on Momentum and Valkyrie) except for Blue Crush which has metawires only for shifting as the plan is to eventually put discs on it. (after I anodize the calipers, but thats another thread). anyway, I have to say that the difference between these cables and regular cables is nothing short of miraculous. my lbs thought I was nuts doing this, but after trying them out, his own bikes (calfee carbon road and spec. enduro) now have nokons. ( for some reason metawires are no longer being sold in U.S., maybe a patent thing with nokon).

these cables make shifts immediate and accurate and add tons of power and modulation to cable discs, and I have avids on both bikes with discs.

just my 2cents, but this is from actual personal experience. I installed the cables on Momentum myself, and they were a fairly large pain to do, but I think it was time well spent considering how well they work. the nokons should be easier because of the way they are packaged.

the other advantage to these cables is that they come in cool anodized colors. I have black on Blue Crush (thats all they had at the time), but silver on Momentum and Valkyrie (they look stupendous) and gold on Photon (incredulous) , but they also have red and blue. unfortunately the blue was the wrong blue for Blue Crush but maybe I can do a set of silvers to the right color myself. (that's another thread too -  home anodizing kits).

see ya, I'm off to ride!! [smiley=nod.gif] [smiley=groucho.gif]

[Frankd3000]

Aaaawww, Dennis, would you cut it out man!!!!

Anodized calipers and funky Nokon cables and other home-anodized pieces! [smiley=nod.gif]

You're getting me all worked up with no place to go!

Regardless, I hope you enjoy your ride. [smiley=beer.gif]


So, anyone - how to remove tube from s/arm? (yes, i'm persistent)

[Simon]

Frankd3000
not sure on your carbon S/arm but on my Oz/4500
s/arm I just pulled out the guide/ferrule on the wheel dropout end,this broke the inner sleeve bonding attaching the 2 together (it was quite tight,used grips and a twisting motion)
also damaged the enammel coating on the guide so
had to repaint which wouldn't matter to you if fitting full outer housing,
then I prized out the front guide and this came out with the inner sleeve still attached.
Simon.

[Frankd3000]

I'm pretty sure it's the same thing on mine, Simon.

Sooooo.... I guess that's not going to happen.

Meh, if I ante-up and get the fancy-shmancy Nokon stuff then I want it exposed, right? [smiley=laughing.gif]

Thank you very much, kind sir!

[kiwi]

i am sure mine came out with little or no drama at all!