Talas R (rear shock) - revisited

[Old Proflexer]

the shock came back, is installed and took her for a spin over my usual 18 mile loop.  

the noise is gone (see previous posts) and the shock appears to be functioning as advertised.  this time around however, my packing list included a sheet with all the replacement parts the fox guys replaced and it included several 4 or 5 valves, a piston etc. that were not on the original (previous) work - but the shock is doing what it's supposed to do and i'll have to spend a good deal of time rework all the settings to get it up to snuff.

one guy in the c.s. department really tweaked me however - don't want to mention his name but in a phone conversation with him i asked about the minimum pressure to be maintained in the shock to prevent the nitrogen release issue.  he stated that one can release all the pressure in the shock and some of the shock maintainence is user servicable - this being contrary to the info i previously received.  

i mentioned to him that i now have confliciting information and would like to see somewhere some written documentation, a manual or whatever with the updated info - and why was what he telling me different from the other guy.

!!!!!!!!!!! wow did he go after me with all he knows about bikes, shocks, customer service and people like me working on my own bikes and not professional mechanics.  
(don't understand why that happened with me being such an easy person to get along with and all - )

about 45 seconds later when he had exhausted his vast reservoir of knowledge and expertise. i apologized for asking a difficult question.  i have to admit he was out of the norm for the usually helpful and friendly fox staff.

anyway, since the shock is apparently working now as best it can, i have to readjust all the settings for our style of bikes and will get back with you guys when i've put some miles, drops, ruts and chatter bumps etc. behind me.

OP
(for the time being, just a fox floatin kinda guy)

[Carbon_Angus]

next time ask for Bob.....

Fox has always been super cautious about fitting/selling shocks to bikes that are not spec'd for OEM or on their fit list. i inquired about getting a Van. thru my LBS and Fox wouldn't sell it to him 'cuz he said it was for a k2 (Oz)....they would but said they wouldn't warranty the shock on the Oz....

btw ...you riding on your burned out trails right now? or have you found some others?

oh and glad the shock is back and working

[Old Proflexer]

no, the trails aren't burned (yet) but probably will be soon.

my main trail coming and going from my house to the network is somewhat closed however.  when doing some trail grading, the park service uncovered 11 cluster bombs from WW 2 bombing practice (what the then remote area was used for) and had to blow a couple as they were still live - fun huh?

anyway, most joggers and riders skip over the caution tapes, barb wire, take down the signs etc. and just keep pumpin up and down the near 4 mile section. with all the big equipment they ran up and down our trails, can't imagine a bike or two setting anything off and or doing any damage.  a jogger guy in san diego got his foot blown off in a similar situation this year tho.

if it ain't snakes, scorpions, flat tires, poison oak etc. - now it's unexploded military ordinance from 60 years ago.

my wife has suggested bowling and has set my golf clubs in the middle of the garage again.  
isnt' she sweet?

OP

[Old Proflexer]

shock works well -

not as plush as a 5th or romic, very little bobbing considering our high pivot design and fun to play with.

i saw at the local supergo, not for sale, a specialized fsr with a simple fox float shock.
attached to the shock was a long silver braded cable which ran down the left side swingarm to a

                                        REMOTE MOUNTED EPIC SHOCK BRAIN.

didn't ride it but it sure makes for some interesting possibilities for us simple minds on mono pivots.

OP

[kiwi]

Op please explain to me what

REMOTE MOUNTED EPIC SHOCK BRAIN.

means.I am not up with the play with the latest developments in suspension(or general mtb matters lately.....

[Dennis]

kiwi,
fox epic shock brain.
it is an intertia valve equipped shock that has been on the Specializied Epic for a year or so now. basically, the shock is locked out until you hit a bump, when you are smooth ground again, it locks out again. so, no bob.

OP, that could be something to wait for! for now, my astro 5 is doing a great job, and lightened my bike by about a half pound. of course, its going to get waaaay heavier when I switch to discs with Aeropoke wheels. these wheels are mad heavy, but really cool!!

[smiley=groucho.gif]

[Old Proflexer]

dennis hit it -

the 'terra logic' and 'brain' units from fox keep a shock locked out a shock when forces are applied from above (rider input).  when the forces come from below (bumps) the units moves upward and internals sensitive to the movement open valves that open the shock.  some units have sensitivity controls that allot to adjust that procedure.

one is supposed to feel the start of the first hit, the valve remains open allowing the shock to do it's thing during the bumps then closes again (again hopefully rider input adjustable) when movement is not necessary - flat ground.  

since a riders input doesn't affect the wheels / swingarm / sliders, the shock portion of the bike stays locked out from rider input.  the rear unit is mounted slightly angled back so as to stay locked out during climbs and open more easily during downhills when the unit is more perpendicular to the ground.

the process is available on the specialized epic shock and the new terra logic forks

best i can figure things out

a simple mono pivot kinda guy   OP

but i tell ya - that new intense spyder vpp as tickled my fancy

[Carbon_Angus]

kiwi,
fox epic shock brain.
it is an intertia valve equipped shock that has been on the Specializied Epic for a year or so now. basically, the shock is locked out until you hit a bump, when you are smooth ground again, it locks out again. so, no bob.

OP, that could be something to wait for! for now, my astro 5 is doing a great job, and lightened my bike by about a half pound. of course, its going to get waaaay heavier when I switch to discs with Aeropoke wheels. these wheels are mad heavy, but really cool!!

[smiley=groucho.gif]

Dennis, how far along are you on that 12 step program?  [smiley=laughing.gif]