Author Topic: New (old) 1998 4000 (Read 11953 times)

Spokes · « **Reply #15 on:** January 17, 2014, 12:41:26 pm »

I'm liking your style, keep it up! Fast becoming (one of) the nicest 4000's on here!

Chris

Scooter · « **Reply #16 on:** January 19, 2014, 04:01:25 pm »

Alright guys. I have completed the first attempt at putting it all together. I bought the bike for 200 and that seemed was a good deal but the reality was that the bike was worn out in several areas and if I hadn't been willing to spend several hundred in parts plus have a lot of donor parts than the bike probably wouldn't have been worth it to refurbish. I had fun putting it together but am happy it's done so I can finally go ride it

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I had a few problems. The rear hub was worn out, the front derailleur was bent, the tube inside the swing arm was broken. Here's the build. More pictures the better, Right

Hadley GT hubs
Mavic 217 Ti SUP UB rims
XT gear cluster
Hutchinson Toro tires
XTR V-brakes. Bought on Ebay, cleaned and repacked the bearings. Cool Stop Salmon pads installed.
Kooka cranks and chain rings, donor from 957
Shimano DX pedals
XT front and rear derailleur's, donor from 957
WTB seat, Ti rails
Jagwire cables and Ti housings
Pro taper gold anodized riser bars
WTB 4-front clamp on grips
XT shifters, donor from 957
Altek brake levers, donor from 957
Titec stem
Titec seat post
.99 cent chinese gold anodized seat clamp

Spokes · « **Reply #17 on:** January 20, 2014, 12:50:19 am »

Excellent job and congrats on a really top quality looking build. I hope your shocks are still in good working order and you enjoy the ride.

Chris

purple gerbil · « **Reply #18 on:** January 20, 2014, 01:49:28 am »

excellent job! I've got a 4000 frame in the loft awaiting my attention, but I've got too much on at the moment to be starting another. you got me thinking now.

Colin · « **Reply #19 on:** January 20, 2014, 03:55:20 am »

Great Job! Well done!

That's one to be proud of.

Here's a gratuitous photo of my 4000...........

Col.

Scooter · « **Reply #20 on:** January 22, 2014, 07:09:47 pm »

That is an awesome bike. Those rims and the fenders give the bike an aggressive look. I noticed the rear shock is upside down compared to mine. Whats the story with that? I am going to ride my bike for a month or two to get the feel of it before I make any changes. I will check the shocks at that point. Also, the riser stem may be to much. Seemed fine with the regular bars but now that I have the riser bars I may replace the stem. Also, my immediate concern is how much stiction seems to be coming from the front fork. I bought new bushings for it. I want to rebuild it but I just want to ride it for a bit before I dive into that.

Colin · « **Reply #21 on:** January 23, 2014, 03:00:55 am »

Thanks,
The shock is "shaft end down" as I have a length of inner tube over the end of the shock body (under the coil) covering the piston shaft so that it will keep muck off it and in the belief that muck is less likely to be driven into the shock body if gravity is against it................I do this on the shocks on all of my bikes......{author prepares to get torn apart in his misguided beliefs} <GRIN>........But then again I have run ODS and Noleen shocks for 17 years and only had one Noleen shock failure (NR-5 front)

And anyway, weren't all NR-4's on "two tube bikes" supplied "my" way round? (But x57's were the other way up)

Col.

Spokes · « **Reply #22 on:** January 23, 2014, 04:17:31 am »

From new the NR4 was fitted upside down on 4000 and 5000 as per Scooters bike and Col has dared to be conventional and fit his the right way up - which is really the wrong way up.... You get it.
I remember trying to swop mine around as it does look strange up side down but seem to remember the shock fouled the top mount. That was why they fitted them this way around.
Col must have clearanced the top mount area a bit to get his shock that way round?

On the subject of your stiff forks, if your not going to service them now it might pay to squirt a bit of grease into the linkage grease ports before you ride it just incase they are dry. These forks run plane nylon bushes not bearings so you don't want to run them dry and wear them or the metal links out.
If the forks are greased and free it's probably the shock needs re charging with nitrogen.

Chris

Spokes · « **Reply #23 on:** January 23, 2014, 04:32:57 am »

As per my 4000

And actually they were fitted "upside down"on 957's as well.

Chris

Spokes · « **Reply #24 on:** January 23, 2014, 04:35:53 am »

There you go. Not mine though sadly.

Chris

k24000 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 23, 2014, 12:07:07 pm »

Love those carbon forks would love them on mine will post some pics soon here in the Uk we have had soo much rain the 4000 is covered still love riding all year round enjoy your ride

Colin · « **Reply #26 on:** January 24, 2014, 03:52:15 am »

Quote from: Spokes on January 23, 2014, 04:17:31 am

From new the NR4 was fitted upside down on 4000 and 5000 as per Scooters bike and Col has dared to be conventional and fit his the right way up - which is really the wrong way up.... You get it.
I remember trying to swop mine around as it does look strange up side down but seem to remember the shock fouled the top mount. That was why they fitted them this way around.
Col must have clearanced the top mount area a bit to get his shock that way round?

On the subject of your stiff forks, if your not going to service them now it might pay to squirt a bit of grease into the linkage grease ports before you ride it just incase they are dry. These forks run plane nylon bushes not bearings so you don't want to run them dry and wear them or the metal links out.
If the forks are greased and free it's probably the shock needs re charging with nitrogen.

Chris

Nope, no fouling involved (unless you count bike shorts! <GRIN>) so nothing had to be clearanced on the 4000.

an NR-4 also seems to fit fine "my" way around on the Carbon frame.

I agree with Chris, if you have any doubts about the smooth action of the forks, get 'em lubed up!
The only time I've seen heavy wear of the nylon (?) bearings is when they've been run dry and dirty.
Easy check is to unbolt the top mount bolt of the shock and then cycle the fork legs through their movement, should be no "stiction" at all really.

Nice selection of 4000's appearing on here; mine is a "4000se" sold in Belgium, allegedly to the Belgium F1 commentator equivalent of Murray Walker, supposedly Schuie has had his leg over it! (Hope he recovers fully!)

Col.

k24000 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 26, 2014, 06:45:33 am »

Hi all,

This is my 4000 after todays mud ride just taken the lizard skin off the shock will post some more after cleaning

Scooter · « **Reply #28 on:** January 27, 2014, 04:00:51 pm »

Are those just standard front mud guards you guys use made for round tube frames?

k24000 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 28, 2014, 02:38:51 pm »

Hi Scooter,

This is a link http://www.cycraguard.co.uk/ to the mudgaurds I use they have been excellent the fitting comes with a flexible strap that fits round the square down tube been using them for 3 years now you may be able to use many others with flexible fasteners hope this helps

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