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Author Topic: New (old) 1998 4000  (Read 11775 times)

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New (old) 1998 4000
« on: January 04, 2014, 10:47:12 am »


Here's a better picture.
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4000 Way Big

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Re: New (old) 1998 4000
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2014, 12:15:58 pm »
Too cool!  I missed a chance on one of those several years back. :P

Now you have another fork to compare to the other pivot points.
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Re: New (old) 1998 4000
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2014, 08:38:30 am »
Excellent! that's a nice purchase!

Col.
2001 OzM
2000 OzX
1999 x500
1999 900 Frame
1998 4000se
1998 4000
1997 957 Frame
1997 857 Frames
1997 XP-X (856)
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1992 962 Frame
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Re: New (old) 1998 4000
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2014, 03:00:19 pm »
Don't compare the measurements of this fork to you 957 as this is a way big and it's fork is longer and specific to this size frame. Awesome bike though!

Chris
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no room in big shed but always room for one more!

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Re: New (old) 1998 4000
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2014, 05:39:10 pm »
Switched the crank arms and gears to Kooka, Shimano DX pedals, SRAM nickle chain and WTB seat. All pretty much correct for that era. Have a couple more changes to do than I'll post some more pics. Having fun :D
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4000 Way Big

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Re: New (old) 1998 4000
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2014, 01:46:39 am »
The kooka stuff is a bit early for the 4000 and was last used on the 957 and Animal. Not that it matters of cause, as long as your happy ;). The chain set in the picture is correct for the bike, a mixture of xt rear mech and lx front mech, lx crank arms and rings. The year before 857 was all xt but they specked the 4000 down a little for some reason.
But then in a lot of cases last years xt is this years lx so they are sort of the same!?! ???
I'm still using the same lx cranks and gears on my 4000 that it came with new in '98, they're bomb proof and won't die!
But I must admit, black kooka cranks would bling it up nicely... 8)
Pictures please.......
Chris
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Re: New (old) 1998 4000
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2014, 09:05:51 pm »
Sneak peek.  8)
« Last Edit: January 06, 2014, 09:08:50 pm by Scooter »
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4000 Way Big

Scooter

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Re: New (old) 1998 4000
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2014, 09:09:47 pm »
The little nubby frame piece the front derailleur is mounted to is kinda funny.
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4000 Way Big

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Re: New (old) 1998 4000
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2014, 07:17:20 am »
That is the same as mine very nice indeed  I have since fitted a 3 way manitou swinger on the rear and think it improves what I think is a great ride used to have an 857 twenty years ago would like to know if they ride the same I cannot remember.

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3 way Swinger Rear
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Xt rear mech
Charge Spoon saddle
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FSA handlebars and stem
Cane Creek headset
Mavic XM rims on XT hubs
Panaracer XC pro tyres
Uprated swingarm pivot via machine shop and roller bearings

Test rode new bikes but still love the Flex
« Last Edit: January 07, 2014, 07:26:08 am by k24000 »

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Re: New (old) 1998 4000
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2014, 02:48:44 pm »
The little nubby frame piece the front derailleur is mounted to is kinda funny.

Technical term that ha ha. Function over form I think  ;)

Chris
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Re: New (old) 1998 4000
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2014, 03:03:53 pm »
My 857 definitely feels less bouncy (travel) than my 4000. I liken the 857 to a hard tail with the sting taken out it where as the 4000 is a full blown suspension bike. In suspension terms the 4000 is a vast improvement over the 857. I still love riding both though as they both have their merits depending on what sort of terrain you are on. Best bet is to have one of each in my opinion  :)
My 4000 has a Fox Float RP2 on the rear and it's superb.

Chris
« Last Edit: January 07, 2014, 03:06:19 pm by Spokes »
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Re: New (old) 1998 4000
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2014, 01:00:34 am »
After sleeping on this I've worked out what I was trying to say: the suspension on the 4000 is more 'active' than the 857. This is because the shock on the 4000 is mounted closer to the swingarm pivot point so has a higher shock ratio, ie more leverage. Phew!

Chris
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Re: New (old) 1998 4000
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2014, 11:17:13 am »
The little nubby frame piece the front derailleur is mounted to is kinda funny.

Technical term that ha ha. Function over form I think  ;)

Chris

The Oz I believe had some mounting difficulties as far as QC and durability of the post with regards to being integrated into the spliced frame?

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Re: New (old) 1998 4000
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2014, 06:13:26 pm »
New (NOS) Mavic  217 SUP Ti rims with GT hubs (when GT hubs were still made in the USA) and Hutchinson Toro tires. Mounted the front rim today.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2014, 06:14:58 pm by Scooter »
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Re: New (old) 1998 4000
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2014, 07:19:40 pm »
Been having fun fixing her up. Here's my progress.
Installed some riser bars.


Installed Altec Shark fin brake levers and XT click shifters


Got the cluster installed on the Mavic rims and put new tubes and tires on. I love these rims.


Waiting on the cables I ordered   ;D
« Last Edit: January 13, 2014, 07:23:26 pm by Scooter »
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4000 Way Big