K2 / Proflex Riders Group
General => Tech Forum => Topic started by: BikerTrash on October 18, 2014, 07:15:47 pm
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Hello! I should first tell how this all started. I have a Cannondale with a Girvin fork, and I am in the process of stripping the paint off the frame and having a clear coated brushed alum frame. I posted a pic of my progress, and someone mentioned that I needed to buy their carbon fiber fork for it. Well, the cf fork has a 1.5" steerer tube, and mine is a 1". So he mentioned I need to find a new frame, and wouldn't you know it, there was one on ebay in my size, and for a good price. So I bought the frame and his fork, and now I have a new project!
This brings me to the "help" part. I want to build this up with new, or fairly new parts, a "modern build", but finding the right parts that fit has left me scratching my head. The last bike I built was a On One Scandal 29er , and I basically bought the frame and a Motobecane for a donor bike. This 957 I am piecing together.
Currently, I am trying to figure out what crankset/bottom bracket to use. I see a lot of 113mm, but I need a 115mm?
(http://www.robbstop.com/images/pf10-18-2014.jpg)
My other bikes:
1989 Cannondale SM600:
(http://www.robbstop.com/images/apart.jpg)
(http://www.robbstop.com/images/71273754.jpg)
On One 29er:
(http://www.robbstop.com/images/OnOne5-30-10.jpg)
Formerly a road bike:
(http://www.robbstop.com/images/cdalemt.jpg)
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Hi there! Just downloaded this original build spec from bikepedia.
Originally it had a 115mm bottom bracket fitted with kooka cranks,
But as for a newer crank I'm unsure which way to correctly guide you
So hopefully someone will chime in with more up to date info...
Welcome to the site ;D
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd24/purplegerbils/stuff/Screenshot_2014-10-19-10-44-49.png) (http://s224.photobucket.com/user/purplegerbils/media/stuff/Screenshot_2014-10-19-10-44-49.png.html)
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Welcome! I've just done a similar thing and built up my OZ as a modern build. The OZ/4500 takes the same size BB as the 957. I used a Shimano XT770 Hollow Tech 2 crank. It comes with spacers for different width fitments.
Here it is again :)
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j413/proflexk2/5343CA03-5CCC-48A3-9986-2322BA1B9FBA.jpg) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/proflexk2/media/5343CA03-5CCC-48A3-9986-2322BA1B9FBA.jpg.html)
Nice collection by the way!
Chris
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Thanks for the replies!
I've been doing some hunting, and I think this will work nicely, along with a Chris King headset. http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobile/us/en/shimano-xt-m780-triple-transmission-groupset/rp-prod114930 (http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobile/us/en/shimano-xt-m780-triple-transmission-groupset/rp-prod114930)
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That will certainly fit and the hollow tech bb is so easy to fit, although you need a few specific tools. That rear cassette at 11/36 is quite big. I had to change mine on the OZ from a 11/34 to a 11/32 as the chain was hitting the swing arm. I think it's due to me fitting a longer stroke rear shock but it might be worth mocking up the chain line on yours before you order, incase you run into clearance problems. Just judge where the chain would be on a 11/36 an see if it hits the swing arm.
Chris
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Welcome! I've just done a similar thing and built up my OZ as a modern build. The OZ/4500 takes the same size BB as the 957. I used a Shimano XT770 Hollow Tech 2 crank. It comes with spacers for different width fitments.
Here it is again :)
([url]http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j413/proflexk2/5343CA03-5CCC-48A3-9986-2322BA1B9FBA.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/proflexk2/media/5343CA03-5CCC-48A3-9986-2322BA1B9FBA.jpg.html[/url])
Nice collection by the way!
Chris
Sorry but this is nothing without the original linkage fork :(
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Ha ha then it's a good job I've got the original linkage fork aswell. They're called Crosslinks by the way.
Chris
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Chris,
Your Oz is FAR from nothing..........
Superstar, have a look at my Oz (well it's the missus' really!) I've trod a similar path to Spokes.
each to their own...........
Col.
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Cheers Col :).
I laughed for two reasons.
One is that I have been guilty of criticising Proflexs in the past for not having vector/Crosslinks, so it's seems only fair that my bike should be criticised now.
Two because he has totally missed the point of this thread and why I built my bike. The thread is about building up a 957 with modern bits as was the reason behind my OZ.
I build bikes to ride and not just look at, so having the luxury of four other Proflexs with vector/crosslink, I think this one will pass. ;)
Chris
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I am now only waiting on XTR v-brakes and XT levers, and I will have everything to complete the bike, except maybe cables/housing. I was trying to decide on a tire, and came across Velociraptors, perfect! I still run Dart/Smokes on my Cdale.
After a good polishing of the frame, I can start assembling.
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Wow, I used to love Panaracer Dart and Smoke tyres back in the day, I havn't seen them available in ages and like you I have been running WTB Velociraptors as front and back specific tyres on several bikes, but I have been preferring Panaracer Fire XC's and as always I love my Panaracer Mach SK's for fast dry conditons.
As I also have Panasonic Cameras, TV's, DVD's and even a vacuum cleaner I am obviously a bit of a Panasonic tart.
Col.
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Cheers Col :).
I laughed for two reasons.
One is that I have been guilty of criticising Proflexs in the past for not having vector/Crosslinks, so it's seems only fair that my bike should be criticised now.
Two because he has totally missed the point of this thread and why I built my bike. The thread is about building up a 957 with modern bits as was the reason behind my OZ.
I build bikes to ride and not just look at, so having the luxury of four other Proflexs with vector/crosslink, I think this one will pass. ;)
Chris
Yes I understand, perhaps it would ride even better with 29" wheels ::)
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Yes I understand, perhaps it would ride even better with 29" wheels ::)
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Err no. By that statement you obviously don't understand at all???
???
Chris
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<<Yes I understand, perhaps it would ride even better with 29" wheels>> quote
Maybe with super low profile tires and a boom box?
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I am now only waiting on XTR v-brakes and XT levers, and I will have everything to complete the bike, except maybe cables/housing. I was trying to decide on a tire, and came across Velociraptors, perfect! I still run Dart/Smokes on my Cdale.
After a good polishing of the frame, I can start assembling.
Sounds like you've got it all sorted. I'm running Velocerapters on my 4000 as winter tyres. I like the way they perform in mud but I find them quite heavy. The front never seems to wear out either! I think you could probably get through five rears to one front!
Chris
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<<Yes I understand, perhaps it would ride even better with 29" wheels>> quote
Maybe with super low profile tires and a boom box?
:D
Yeh maybe I should fit hydraulics so I can cruise and get the front end bouncing..
::)
Chris
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Progress! Bought a Mothers PowerCone and went to work, does a good job! There are some tight areas that I will have to hand polish, but I can do that later, had to start building!
Only problem, besides not having cable housing, was the pedals are 1/2", didn't find out until I put one in the crank. At least they were free! Ordered some silver Wellgo MG-1s, I already have a pair and love them.
(http://www.robbstop.com/images/pf10-31-2014b.jpg)
(http://www.robbstop.com/images/pf10-31-2014c.jpg)
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Looking real nice. 8)
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That is a very good looking bike you have!
:o
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That looks fantastic, well done.
Chris
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Very nice indeed young man. 8)
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I like that. 8)
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Very nice
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Thanks for the nice comments! The frame was really scratched up before I polished it, looks almost like a new frame now, and better than I was expecting. 8)
Got some cable housing today, started routing it and realized I don't have the ferrules! >:( After some searching here, found that Jagwire 5mm Alloy Housing Stops are what I need, so another order to wait on its arrival! :P
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I've not seen Mothers Power cone before it but looks very handy. I usually use Autosolve and a cloth. Did your frame still have the clear coat on it and did you just polish through it, or had this been polished off before?
Did you polish around the stickers or fit new?
Chris
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I've been using the autosol polishing paste on my project,does a good job too. Just can't decide whether to polish or paint the forks.
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I must have polished right through the clear coat, it was quite thin, and the stickers are in good shape, so I just polished around them.
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Wow, super-shiny! Mine is bare metal too, with some sort of coating... but it's never been polished, at least not like that. Mine just looks like dull gray aluminum, which I'm OK with... but that shine is pretty amazing!
On the plus side, like driving a beater, I don't really worry too much about a crash scuffing the bike (it's just me getting scuffed that I worry about...!). ;D
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FYI, for those that need ferrules, I got the Jagwire 5mm Alloy Housing Stops, and they don't fit. They have a .285 od, and the cable guides on the frame are .245, so I had to do some grinding on them (not the frame), and now they fit.
My dad has a 856 (in desperate need of some tlc), and gave me his two banners from when he bought his bike new! I'll either hang them in the Man Cave or garage. 8)
Speaking of Man Cave, this build has made mine a mess! Figured I would take a pic before I clean up. :P
(http://www.robbstop.com/images/mess.jpg)
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That is the way mine looks after the cleanup!! ;D
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Yeh once you put those posters on the wall you've got loads of space! ;)
Chris
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Your 957 looks great! If you do all that polishing one thing you can have done is a lower temp clear powdercoat to protect the finish. I had that done to my 956LE frame by a custom painter/powdercoater in my area that specialized in bike frames. Great results, more durable than a paint-based clearcoat and you'll never have to polish again :-)
- Doug :-)
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Done! :D
(http://www.robbstop.com/images/957done11-14-14.jpg)
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Really nice! Looks like a new bike.