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General => Tech Forum => Topic started by: whisperdancer on January 29, 2014, 02:54:46 pm

Title: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: whisperdancer on January 29, 2014, 02:54:46 pm
Sorry to post this question here, but I do value your opinion and there is no off topic thread...

I got the opportunity to buy a Kent Eriksen ASR frame. It comes with the 3.75in Yeti carbon rear triangle (pre 2010 version), a fox rp23 kashima shock, the titanium main triangle and a fox front suspension.

Anyone has ever seen one of these? Are they a sweet ride, or is a updated ASR5 a better bike? For a little more, I can get a complete 2011 ASR5 with top components (X0, Crossmax, formula x1).

Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: Spokes on January 29, 2014, 03:33:51 pm
Sorry mate don't know that bike,but I'm sure others on here will.

Chris
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: Colin on January 30, 2014, 02:07:40 am
Try Retroriders?
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: whisperdancer on January 30, 2014, 01:00:49 pm
Well, decided not to buy it. The titanium bling call was not enough for me. I will concentrate myself on building a custom "faux" 957 proflex from a k2 1000 frame, which was my first task.
If the mtb bug catches again (2 small kids, very difficult to ride right now) and in case I can't keep the pace due to the "old" bikes, I will think on a newer one.

Luckily I don't ride a new bike for a veeeeery long time, so I don't know what I've been missing...

Just in case you don't know it, here is the frame and fork that are for sale:

(http://imageshack.com/a/img51/7202/y3xp.jpg)
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: Spokes on January 30, 2014, 03:33:37 pm
That does look very nice indeed. If you fancied that and you're building the 1000 from scratch why not try a modern twist with up to date forks and rear shock conversion. With eBay deals I'm sure you could build something quite special for not much money.

Chris
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: whisperdancer on January 30, 2014, 03:55:06 pm
My goal is to build the proflex in a cheap way:

- I can paint it for free and I already have the 957 decals
- I have a brand new noleen cross link carbon with a smart shock for it
- I have a carbon swingarm to put on it
- I have a manitou swinger on which I'm still thinking on an adapter - almost there!
- everybody is selling the 26'' wheels and vbrake wheels are cheap
- vbrakes are cheap and light, with no maintenance
- Have 2 or 3 more components for it

I will paint the frame (still deciding on the color - Maybe a dark matte brown that matches the carbon and contrasts with the yellow) and then I will see what's the next step.
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: Spokes on January 31, 2014, 05:13:48 am
You seem to have it well sorted. My only question is why paint it if you are putting 957 stickers on it? As you know the 957 was a bare polished frame. I think a coloured frame with 957 decals will look wrong? Polishing the frame may take a while but would be worth it. If you want to paint it why not paint it in silver/aluminium colour, that way it will look kind of original. But it's you bike and good luck!

Chris
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: spikebender on January 31, 2014, 01:09:59 pm
I polished out the ($20) 656 I built a few years back. It came out nice. someone had done a  crappy spray paint job on it, and that was kinda my only option at the time.
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: whisperdancer on January 31, 2014, 01:50:58 pm
You seem to have it well sorted. My only question is why paint it if you are putting 957 stickers on it? As you know the 957 was a bare polished frame. I think a coloured frame with 957 decals will look wrong? Polishing the frame may take a while but would be worth it. If you want to paint it why not paint it in silver/aluminium colour, that way it will look kind of original. But it's you bike and good luck!

Chris

That was my first thought: polish the frame, put the stickers on an then clear coat it.
But then I read about some polished bikes becoming dull and with some corrosion, even with clear coat on (didn't knew this cold happen).
It seems the 7005 alloy is worse than the 6061 regarding corrosion over time.

I then started to think on a different paint, something like a dark matte brownish color, that would go nicely with the carbon swingarm and fork, and would make contrast with the yellow stickers.

I have access to all car manufacturer colors, choose one, strip and paint the frame for free. Only the decals cost me money. I think a polishing job would cost me, since it's time consuming and I don't have the time or patience right now (I think I will never will). The original 957 had no clear coat. Riding in adverse conditions or by the beach, and it had to be taken care of much sooner than a painted bike.

So, in the budget conscience and trying to add a touch of modernity, the almost monocolor with the flashy yellow stickers and details on the fork, that will be my route for now...

PS: meanwhile, that Kent Eriksen titanium bike lowered in price...

Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: Spokes on January 31, 2014, 11:47:09 pm
Ok I see your point and agree that polished frames take a lot more care than painted ones. If your set on your colour choice good for you.
A friend of mine had an Orange 5 re-painted in 2013 metallic aluminium colour and even up close you would swear it was a polished frame..
Look forward to seeing it!

Chris
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: whisperdancer on February 01, 2014, 11:38:00 am
Ok I see your point and agree that polished frames take a lot more care than painted ones. If your set on your colour choice good for you.
A friend of mine had an Orange 5 re-painted in 2013 metallic aluminium colour and even up close you would swear it was a polished frame..
Look forward to seeing it!

Chris

Is that the sterling silver paint? I just saw it and it looks amazing. I think it's going to be a little difficult for me to get a similar formula, but I will certainly look for it.
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: Scooter on February 01, 2014, 05:20:06 pm
Did the 957"s originally have no clear coat? My 957 doesn't and I thought I was told here that if it was an original 957 that it would have a clear coat?
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: Spokes on February 02, 2014, 12:05:36 am
No the 957 have a clear coat, that's the point. Whisperdancer is saying that polishing a 7005 frame and the clear coating it doesn't always work. The origins 957 was apparently made from 6061 which holds its shine better.  Although everything I've read, including the sales brochures specs, say they are all 7005 and make no men's ion of 6061. My 957 even had the metal Proflex plaque saying Program 7005.? That's another discussion that's been had several times...

Chris
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: Spokes on February 02, 2014, 12:09:00 am
Ok I see your point and agree that polished frames take a lot more care than painted ones. If your set on your colour choice good for you.
A friend of mine had an Orange 5 re-painted in 2013 metallic aluminium colour and even up close you would swear it was a polished frame..
Look forward to seeing it!

Chris

Is that the sterling silver paint? I just saw it and it looks amazing. I think it's going to be a little difficult for me to get a similar formula, but I will certainly look for it.

Yes that must be it. I'll ask him and find out the name but it was the 2013 colour.

Chris
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: Spokes on February 02, 2014, 02:23:43 pm
Ok I see your point and agree that polished frames take a lot more care than painted ones. If your set on your colour choice good for you.
A friend of mine had an Orange 5 re-painted in 2013 metallic aluminium colour and even up close you would swear it was a polished frame..
Look forward to seeing it!

Chris

Is that the sterling silver paint? I just saw it and it looks amazing. I think it's going to be a little difficult for me to get a similar formula, but I will certainly look for it.

Yes it was the Sterling silver and take it from me you have to look twice to check it is not a polished frame!

Chris
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: fyrstormer on February 05, 2014, 05:17:20 pm
You could probably sell that Crosslink Carbon w/ Smart Shock for more than enough to buy a modern sliding fork, with money left over to pay for the adaptor you'll need for that Manitou Swinger shock.
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: whisperdancer on February 06, 2014, 05:28:20 am
You could probably sell that Crosslink Carbon w/ Smart Shock for more than enough to buy a modern sliding fork, with money left over to pay for the adaptor you'll need for that Manitou Swinger shock.


Problem is I love crosslinks.
The small bump sensivity, the looks... they are built for this frame. So it is difficult for me to part it out from the frame.

As for the swinger, it needs a rebuild (I have it for many years now) and I will only put it due to the difficulty of the noleen rebuilds.

I think it will look something like this, with a two tone in the front (shopped picture after a red 857), but the brown colors will match the carbon waving colors):

(http://idriders.com/proflex/smf/MGalleryItem.php?id=543)

As for modern bikes, I'm negotiating a complete Yeti ASR 5 bicycle with top components. Problem is that it has a bunch of miles on top (around 3000 miles), but with maintenance done.
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: Spokes on February 06, 2014, 12:56:50 pm
I like that colour scheme! Quite unusual and a perfect contrast to the yellow decals. If you like your Crosslinks then keep them. As you're buying a second bike it will be nice to have a modern bike and a traditional Proflex to appreciate the contrast. Can't wait to see your finished results.

Chris
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: whisperdancer on March 26, 2014, 07:08:14 am
Not the Proflex 957 yet, but the more modern bike:

(http://s17.postimg.org/c9fjjumfj/DSCF1740.jpg)

It really is different from an almost 15 year ride! At least they both have a CF swingarm...
11.9Kg (26.2lbs) of 150mm front and 125mm rear travel.

The "brown" Proflex is still in the works...
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: Tel on March 28, 2014, 01:26:45 pm
Sorry to admit it but I mostly ride a 29" Cube these days but I still love my Proflex XPX the one big thing that I don't miss one bit is the brakes I`ve tried the XTR v brake route and HS33 maguras both with ceramic mavic crossmax slrs and by comparison they just give me something to fiddle with just before crashes. If only there was some proper way to get them on the front of a cross link I wouldn't consider another bike.
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: whisperdancer on March 29, 2014, 10:06:25 am
I do feel the crosslink makes a great climber of the bike, but even when doing a u turn in a paved road at very low speed, the front wheel feels as it is going to start moving backwards at any time.
The confidence is very different between bikes. But I do love the Proflex for it's (now) awkward looks and reliable service over these years.
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: whisperdancer on September 30, 2014, 09:03:01 am
I like that colour scheme! Quite unusual and a perfect contrast to the yellow decals. If you like your Crosslinks then keep them. As you're buying a second bike it will be nice to have a modern bike and a traditional Proflex to appreciate the contrast. Can't wait to see your finished results.

Chris


A long time has past since I've posted a question about which color should I paint a k2 1000 frame I had in red.
Having decided for the brownish color with yellow decal theme, i'm preparing the frame for receiving the CF swingarm and crosslink carbon fork, and all the parts from the Animal frame.

So, went from this:

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/59/0702171419ga5.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/f/1n0702171419ga5j)


to this:


(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/674/1CNyy3.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/f/iq1CNyy3j)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/743/89Jv7U.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/f/kn89Jv7Uj)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/674/5Vyydz.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/f/iq5Vyydzj)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/538/xKOCFK.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/f/eyxKOCFKj)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/661/fBBh4L.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/f/idfBBh4Lj)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/673/Qh7yeu.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/f/ipQh7yeuj)



I don't know if too much yellow/gold is a bad think, but the KCNC gold upgrade set seems nice...
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: beeeerock on September 30, 2014, 09:51:03 am
This colour scheme looks really good!
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: Spokes on September 30, 2014, 03:06:07 pm
I applaud you sir, that looks fantastic.

Chris
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: whisperdancer on October 06, 2014, 08:10:02 am
I believe the links aren't working.
Here is a bigger photo.

(http://www.imagesup.net/?di=5141260811611)
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: purple gerbil on October 06, 2014, 11:06:46 am
Nice job! Will look great when it's finished.
Title: Re: Non-proflex bike opinion...
Post by: whisperdancer on December 02, 2014, 01:52:12 pm
In a veeeery slow build, "gooing" everything up:

(http://alojaimagens.com/images/6q9145mc5j1236n7qea.jpg)

(http://alojaimagens.com/images/wfy1mu7fnsciicx1fity.jpg)

(http://alojaimagens.com/images/hvg4lc7sc1y3b2z5q6s.jpg)

(http://alojaimagens.com/images/yep3pgvfag21gcofde4x.jpg)

(http://alojaimagens.com/images/pz784qjfphjbyb3r4x5m.jpg)

(http://alojaimagens.com/images/9pqm323v753mwkllu3i.jpg)


Meanwhile I had to get new bushings for the rear strut, as I've broke one trying to get them off the old aluminum swingarm. Here is a picture of them for future reference:

(http://alojaimagens.com/images/a3aijgmgtzd4au2ue02f.jpg)


Strut is on, and next thing is to put the shock adapter and the EPICON, as well as the BB, the aheadset and the crosslink fork (I'll be using the spare crosslink smart fork I still have).