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Title: I really hate these Ebay tactics
Post by: shovelon on August 10, 2009, 02:32:37 pm
 >:(
This seller has intentionaly misrepresented the description of this 856 to yank the sale if it does not meet his expectations. Obviously it is not a K2, and not an evo, and not a 1999. >:(

http://cgi.ebay.com/1999-K2-Evo-Mountain-Bike-Flying-Monkey_W0QQitemZ190326954781QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMountain_Bikes?hash=item2c505edb1d&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Whatever, but it is just a pet peeve. ::)
Title: Re: I really hate these Ebay tactics
Post by: Old Proflexer on August 11, 2009, 06:03:29 am
what do you mean 'yank the sale' - guess i don't understand  ???

maybe he came across an old bike and doesn't know - it's not badged
there are a few hayseeds in iowa - - - - - -

OP
Title: Re: I really hate these Ebay tactics
Post by: Colin on August 11, 2009, 07:14:24 am
Just click on the "report item" button!

Col.
Title: Re: I really hate these Ebay tactics
Post by: Colin on August 11, 2009, 07:21:48 am
or message the seller, as I have done.........

Hi,
That's a circa 1996 "856" model PRO~FLEX bike, not a 1999 K2 Evo Flying Monkey.
Still a nice bike, but I suggest that you update your description so that you don't mislead anyone.......
Regards
Colin S
Title: Re: I really hate these Ebay tactics
Post by: shovelon on August 11, 2009, 07:36:47 am
what do you mean 'yank the sale' - guess i don't understand  ???

maybe he came across an old bike and doesn't know - it's not badged
there are a few hayseeds in iowa - - - - - -

OP
I have seen quite a few sellers end a sale with the excuse that the description was misleading, only to reappear with higher reserves. On one I had pointed out an error and would take as is to no avail.

Some listings can be ended early if no one bids, which is why you see at least one bid on most items to lock it in, then a flurry at the end. No, I think this guy has rigged it. ::)
Title: Re: I really hate these Ebay tactics
Post by: orange on August 11, 2009, 10:29:53 am
slightly off topic - but does everybody in the USA have a white garage door?!  ;D
Title: Re: I really hate these Ebay tactics
Post by: whisperdancer on August 12, 2009, 05:42:46 am
Well, I did wrote him this:

"Hi. Are you sure you posted the right pictures? That's not a K2, it not an EVO frame, and it isn't from 1999. That's a x56 (eg 856) style frame, from 1996 when they were called Pro-Flex. The k2 bikes never adopted that frame, since 1997 was the last year that frame was used (657). So, you can call it a ProFlex 856 or 756, but never a K2, or 1999, or Evo Flying Monkey (that had a completely different frame)."


Here is the answer the seller gave to me:

"Hey thanks for the Info, I dont know much about bikes or this bike I have had it for years. I was told that It was a K2 Evo. Im going to end the auction and relist it. Can you tell me exactley what it is so I get the title and desription right. I just did a quick search on google and realized you were right thanks again..."
Title: Re: I really hate these Ebay tactics
Post by: shovelon on August 12, 2009, 11:19:14 am
"I was told that It was a K2 Evo. Im going to end the auction and relist it."

Told ya. >:(

Terry
Title: Re: I really hate these Ebay tactics
Post by: Old Proflexer on August 22, 2009, 11:24:59 am
i need to get out more often - just a little naive about such things -

OP
Title: Re: I really hate these Ebay tactics
Post by: shovelon on August 22, 2009, 01:04:48 pm
slightly off topic - but does everybody in the USA have a white garage door?!  ;D
These days they start out white. There is a whole industry that just does prefab garage doors. With all the building and remodeling in the last few years here, there are an awful lot of white garage doors.

But mine is green(no not for environmentalism). :P
Title: Re: I really hate these Ebay tactics
Post by: rapiddescent on September 02, 2009, 02:17:43 am
I wish I had a garage door - but my house was built long before cars were invented !!! 

this ebay listing scam is well known - They are easy to spot by us, proflex experts, but not by the general public.  I have customers coming to me for elastomers who have bought Proflex 656's etc after being told they are worth $1500+ and have bought them for a lot of money only to find that the bikes are old and the elastomers hard.
Title: Re: I really hate these Ebay tactics
Post by: Colin on September 02, 2009, 05:05:09 am
Yeh, but then he correctly listed and described it  and succesfully sold it for a bargain $206

http://cgi.ebay.com/1996-Pro-Flex-856-Polished-Frame-Mountain-Bike_W0QQitemZ190327989697 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1996-Pro-Flex-856-Polished-Frame-Mountain-Bike_W0QQitemZ190327989697)

Maybe he was just genuinly mistaken and he appeared to welcome our advice?

and hey, if you fall for that "it's worth £1500" line then you deserve all you get.................No Sympathy IMHO! DYOR! <SMILE>

Col.
Title: Re: I really hate these Ebay tactics
Post by: shovelon on September 02, 2009, 08:40:12 am
Well at least somebody had put a lot of time stripping that frame.  :D