K2 / Proflex Riders Group
General => Tech Forum => Topic started by: squirtsb on March 14, 2008, 07:20:28 am
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I am new to this site, and I apoligize ifthis post has been covered in earlier post. I have a 2000 Evo 4 and I am thrilled to have found this group.
I am in the process of totally rebuilding my frame for the second time, and I need to find the rebuild kit for the pivot. I notified K2, and they stated they no longer have the kits in stock. Are the needle bearings a common size that I could purchase after market? In addition, how can the end play be adjusted without the plastic end play tool that used to come with the EVO's. (According to the K2 site)... Your input is appreciated.
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try this
http://idriders.com/proflex/smf/index.php?topic=2003.0 (http://idriders.com/proflex/smf/index.php?topic=2003.0)
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Thanks for the reply- I spoke with Iron Horse and they stated they have no more kits in stock, and there are no more plans for making more, although the RK012 kit is was their most popular pivot kit. I think I'll be soaking the bearings in WD 40. ???
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someone ma have one....thats bad new s though,its only a matter of time before all the other kits are gone too :(
Search the forum,a member Simon did a bearing conversion on an 856 I think,principle should be the same...In fact i think the disco monke the last vverion(or one of the last) of the evo frame had a different sstem..maybe they still have them..?One of the "Evo" guys will respond I am Sure!
And welcome!
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I found a reply to a post by iliv2k2 that explained part #'s and technical procedures for replacing the bearings. I ordered 4 bearings this evening.
Please see Iliv2k2's message below. iliv2k2... thank you for the info. ;D
"I have the same frame and I've done the changed out the bearings twice. It's so much fun.
The bearings are Torrington #B1010
And here's how I removed them the last time I did it.
Items:
All thread rod
2 nuts
2 washers
A long socket of similar diameter that allow the all thread to pass through
A PVC Coupling w/inner diameter larger than the bearing
1. Slowly tighten until the bearing on the PVC side pops out
2. Disassemble and remove bearing and spacer
3. Reassemble to remove the final bearing.
4. Grease the new bearings and I'm sure you figure out the rest.
Items laid out:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g49/deaston92/Bearing%20Removal/DSC00398.jpg
Assembled:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g49/deaston92/Bearing%20Removal/DSC00403.jpg
Ready to push 'em out:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g49/deaston92/Bearing%20Removal/DSC00406.jpg
« Last Edit: October 26, 2007, 09:12:59 pm by iliv2k2 » "
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Hey,
anybody know where to get these torrington bearings from? i've been looking around online, but i cant really find anything.
Cheers, Scott.
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I got my torrington bearings from Baum Hydraulics ( Check online) I think it was $24 for four bearings with shipping. Swapping out the bearings was pretty slick using he threaded rod/socket method.
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Hi,
http://www.baumhydraulics.com/product.php?productid=18212&cat=349&page=1
these the ones you mean? The problem is (and i'm almost ashamed to admit) I'm a child of the metric system, and i have no idea how to measure bearings in imperial sizes. :-[
Are they the right size? if so, i now know what i'm looking for, and might be able to find them in the UK and save myself some time and hassle.
Cheers, Scott.
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Those are the correct bearings. ;D They fit my 2000 K2 EVO 4.0 with the carbon swingarm.
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Those are the correct bearings. ;D They fit my 2000 K2 EVO 4.0 with the carbon swingarm.
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Are you saying that you fitted needle bearings in your carbon swingarm ??? ??? ?????????
That's a new one on me.
Terry
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I pressed the bearings into the frame. Sorry for the confusion.
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Now you mount your swingarm, and it is a carbon swingarm? I have never seen a carbon swingarm mounted on a needle bearing frame.
Terry
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Hope I'm not missing something...symantics ??? The swing arm is carbon- I had the impression, all evo 4.0 w/ the carbon swingarm had needle bearing frames.
Mike
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Hope I'm not missing something...symantics ??? The swing arm is carbon- I had the impression, all evo 4.0 w/ the carbon swingarm had needle bearing frames.
Mike
To my knowledge, all carbon swingarms were only fitted with bushings. But this could be different. I thought that only the alum swingarms were mounted to needle bearing frames. I know there is some kind of spacer in my alum swingarm that may also work for the carbon swingarm. That may be it .
Terry
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Interesting post. My carbon swing arm does have an aluminum spacers where the pivot rod goes through. Appreciate the input and knowledge you all have pertaining to these frames. ;D
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So does this mean I can replace the bushings in my 5500 with those needle bearing?
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So does this mean I can replace the bushings in my 5500 with those needle bearing?
Sorry No
All the evo and 4500/5500 carbon swingarms are the same its just that some later evo's
had a new pivot system in the frame (needle bearings) the same swingarm was used but with adaptors
now used for the needle bearings in the swingarm instead of the bushes.
Simon.
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to the OP....
U still lookin' for the bearing rebuild kit?
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So does this mean I can replace the bushings in my 5500 with those needle bearing?
Sorry No
All the evo and 4500/5500 carbon swingarms are the same its just that some later evo's
had a new pivot system in the frame (needle bearings) the same swingarm was used but with adaptors
now used for the needle bearings in the swingarm instead of the bushes.
Simon.
disco or disco monkey wasnt it???
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So does this mean I can replace the bushings in my 5500 with those needle bearing?
Sorry No
All the evo and 4500/5500 carbon swingarms are the same its just that some later evo's
had a new pivot system in the frame (needle bearings) the same swingarm was used but with adaptors
now used for the needle bearings in the swingarm instead of the bushes.
Simon.
disco or disco monkey wasnt it???
To be honest Kiwi I'm not totally sure I just know the later frames had needle bearings and if memory serves me right didn't some frames have square tubing ? Not sure if its the earlier or later frames,ProflexGB had one.
Simon.
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Attached is a picture of my evo 4.0 with the needle bearing frame. When I serviced my swing arm, I only changed the bearings. I didn't touch the pivot arm (Rod), or seals. If anyone has an extra kit they would like to sell. Please let me know. :)
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Being painfully ignorant of the needle bearing setup, and too lazy to take mine apart, what kind of seal is it? And are there no thrust bearings? If I knew, I am sure substitutes could be conjured up.
Terry
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I'm not sure what a thust bearing is. ??? As for the seals it was pretty basic. It appeared to be a thin rubberized washer inside/outside a metallic one.
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Wow, that's not a 4000 or 5000. After K2 too the Proflex name off I was to the Navy and lost interest anyway. I live in Maine and part of their appeal was that the bikes were disgned and built in New England, not the fire roads of Claifornia. Either way, I remember the the Aluminum counter parts to the carbon bikes, the 4000 and 5000, did have square down tubes. That bike is definately NOT one of those. I never really new about the Evo's. Were they a good evolution, or crap? And did the Oz's get the same needle bearing treatment?
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I'm in Maine also. I have nothing positive to say about my EVO. I had the bike out this afternoon, and I am quite happy with how it performs. With the Swinger 3 air, there is little pedal bob. The bike as pictured weighs in at 29.5 lbs.
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Sorry... I meant... I have nothing but positive things to say about my EVO.
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I'm not sure what a thust bearing is. ??? As for the seals it was pretty basic. It appeared to be a thin rubberized washer inside/outside a metallic one.
Ok, those are somewhat of a thrust bearing. The rubber slides around the metal washers, and the pivot somewhat floats against the rubber? Seems logical, but do you lube the rubber?
Terry
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I lubed them... ??? Bear in mind I'm no expert.
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I lubed them... ??? Bear in mind I'm no expert.
Gotcha
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Wow, that's not a 4000 or 5000. After K2 too the Proflex name off I was to the Navy and lost interest anyway. I live in Maine and part of their appeal was that the bikes were disgned and built in New England, not the fire roads of Claifornia. Either way, I remember the the Aluminum counter parts to the carbon bikes, the 4000 and 5000, did have square down tubes. That bike is definately NOT one of those. I never really new about the Evo's. Were they a good evolution, or crap? And did the Oz's get the same needle bearing treatment?
The Evo was good (very good).
No Oz didn't ever get the needle bearing treatment.
Simon.
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I'm in Maine also. I have nothing positive to say about my EVO. I had the bike out this afternoon, and I am quite happy with how it performs. With the Swinger 3 air, there is little pedal bob. The bike as pictured weighs in at 29.5 lbs.
you still looking for a bearing kit for a carbon swingarmed EVO/Oz? i have been out of State (out of mind too) but will be home later and can check my (small) hoard of kits and such.
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hey carbon-angus, I could still use a kit if at all possible. Although I found needle bearings, I could not find the other parts needed for a rebuild. If you happen to find the kit you would like to sell- please let me know. Thanks
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No Oz didn't ever get the needle bearing treatment.
Simon.
thats what they call the kings English NOT :-X
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No Oz didn't ever get the needle bearing treatment.
Simon.
thats what they call the kings English NOT :-X
Thar ain't no coma 'n that thar sayin! ???
"Needle bearing treatment". Is that some kind of Prostrate cure? :'(
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No Oz didn't ever get the needle bearing treatment.
Simon.
thats what they call the kings English NOT :-X
No BUT straight to the point ;D
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No Oz didn't ever get the needle bearing treatment.
Simon.
thats what they call the kings English NOT :-X
Oh and that should read (Queen's English) ;)
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Sorry... I meant... I have nothing but positive things to say about my EVO.
Where in Maine? I'm up in Old Town.
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I'm over in Windham... Ever in Southern ME let me know.
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I'm in Maine also. I have nothing positive to say about my EVO. I had the bike out this afternoon, and I am quite happy with how it performs. With the Swinger 3 air, there is little pedal bob. The bike as pictured weighs in at 29.5 lbs.
you still looking for a bearing kit for a carbon swingarmed EVO/Oz? i have been out of State (out of mind too) but will be home later and can check my (small) hoard of kits and such.
i checked my stash and have only one rebuild kit, i do have some extra o rings but if it is the bearings you need i 'd don't have any spares,, sorry