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General => Tech Forum => Topic started by: Simon on November 10, 2007, 08:02:44 pm

Title: Whats it worth ?
Post by: Simon on November 10, 2007, 08:02:44 pm
Just wondering if anyone has an idea of what this is worth,sadly its sat around doing nothing now and I have my 856 project to use anyway.
May ebay it.
It has a good spec,
Middleburn,XT,Hope,Answer carbon,
Risse Astro5,Mega-air etc.
As you can see custom made floating rear brake,if this was removed you would have couple of small holes in the frame,easy fix blanking off.
Custom modified Evo aluminium s/arm (to stiffen rear end flex),custom s/arm sealed bearing conversion.
Also comes with a brand new carbon s/arm already modified to fit with the sealed bearings.
Owned from new,size large.
Simon.

(http://idriders.com/proflex/galleries/Mega-Oz/sams_bike1.jpg)

(http://idriders.com/proflex/galleries/Mega-Oz/sams_bike5.JPG)
Title: Re: Whats it worth ?
Post by: kiwi on November 10, 2007, 08:34:05 pm
is the swingarm alloy?
What do you reckon she weighs Simon?

doh just noticed the text....[smiley=redface.gif]
Title: Re: Whats it worth ?
Post by: mizunole on November 10, 2007, 08:49:06 pm
To be honest, most of the parts have such a trick factor you should easily get a good $200 more if you part it and advertise them right.  When I parted that 856 a while back( although not nearly as tightly spec'd)  I made about a $200 profit from what I bought the bike for and was selling the parts for much cheaper than I could have.
Title: Re: Whats it worth ?
Post by: Simon on November 10, 2007, 09:22:48 pm
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To be honest, most of the parts have such a trick factor you should easily get a good $200 more if you part it and advertise them right.  When I parted that 856 a while back( although not nearly as tightly spec'd)  I made about a $200 profit from what I bought the bike for and was selling the parts for much cheaper than I could have.


Yes your right but I'd like to see it go to a good home and be enjoyed again out on the trails.
Title: Re: Whats it worth ?
Post by: Simon on November 10, 2007, 09:27:26 pm
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is the swingarm alloy?
What do you reckon she weighs Simon?

doh just noticed the text....[smiley=redface.gif]


At one stage she was down to 25.5lbs (tested on calibrated scales) with some really trick bits but since
I built it up for my son (its his bike now) I'd put it at
around 26 to 26.5lbs in my estimate.I'll weigh it for anyone who's interested.

Simon.
Title: Re: Whats it worth ?
Post by: willem on November 11, 2007, 12:10:47 am
What... Sam's not riding it? I guess it's not fast enough to chase girls with!
I'll bet he's got a moto.

That bike has got to be worth a huge chunk of cash. But, as I found in two weeks of no bidding for my 856 on ebay, it's a fickle marketplace.
On the other hand, I sold the 856 in 8 hours on Cragslist.

See ya,
Will
Title: Re: Whats it worth ?
Post by: Simon on November 11, 2007, 12:29:17 am
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What... Sam's not riding it? I guess it's not fast enough to chase girls with!
I'll bet he's got a moto.

That bike has got to be worth a huge chunk of cash. But, as I found in two weeks of no bidding for my 856 on ebay, it's a fickle marketplace.
On the other hand, I sold the 856 in 8 hours on Cragslist.

See ya,
Will


Hi Will
yep your right only time it got used was visiting his girlfriend and rarely at that,seems such a waste.
No moto for him yet but he's saving for driving lessons and a car.Gotta sort a ballpark reserve it won't be going for peanuts but its such a shame seeing it stuck in the shed doing nothing, but if we end up keeping it then so be it but it should be out on the trails really and I just don't have the time and I've got my other bike.

Simon.

Title: Re: Whats it worth ?
Post by: wylyman on November 11, 2007, 07:01:22 am
Nice bike, would like to make an offer If I had the $$.  How much mod would I take to put a aluminum swing arm on my 4000.  I like the durability of the bushing pivot but would like to try a stiffer swing arm on it.  Also, does the floating brake make a noticable difference.  I have read forums saying they are more for long travel dh bikes.
Title: Re: Whats it worth ?
Post by: mizunole on November 11, 2007, 07:42:41 am
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Yes your right but I'd like to see it go to a good home and be enjoyed again out on the trails.


Sell it whole, one bike rides, part it, many may be up and running!  
Title: Re: Whats it worth ?
Post by: Simon on November 11, 2007, 08:04:16 am
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Nice bike, would like to make an offer If I had the $$.  How much mod would I take to put a aluminum swing arm on my 4000.  I like the durability of the bushing pivot but would like to try a stiffer swing arm on it.  Also, does the floating brake make a noticable difference.  I have read forums saying they are more for long travel dh bikes.


Fitting a aluminium s/arm to a 4000 is a straight swap.
Fitting one to a carbon frame is a different matter (loads of work involved).
Floating brake works pretty good but all the work involved wasn't worth all the effort (it was a lot of work from scratch with many re-designs).Someone may get the benefit without the all the hassle that was involved.

Simon.
Title: Re: Whats it worth ?
Post by: shovelon on November 11, 2007, 12:24:30 pm
Yes, keep it alive. But sadly it would fetch more parted out.

I have seen some 4500, 5500, Oz, go for about $1000(US).
The frame alone could go for about $500, more is someone reckognised your work.

Nope, you could never wrench mine away. Once it is gone, that's it.

Wish the exchange rate is better.:-)

Terry

Title: Re: Whats it worth ?
Post by: signalMTB on November 12, 2007, 12:45:04 pm
What component(s) is Hope?
Title: Re: Whats it worth ?
Post by: kiwi on November 12, 2007, 06:41:44 pm
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What component(s) is Hope?

hubs,and or brakes ussually
Title: Re: Whats it worth ?
Post by: signalMTB on November 13, 2007, 02:31:51 am
oh, I meant specifically on this bike...what was Hope.  I just picked up a Hope stem and she's a beauty. much love to the CNC.
Title: Re: Whats it worth ?
Post by: Simon on November 13, 2007, 03:44:29 am
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oh, I meant specifically on this bike...what was Hope.  I just picked up a Hope stem and she's a beauty. much love to the CNC.


Hope Brakes,Rear skewer hope Ti,Hope seat pin clamp.
Title: Re: Whats it worth ?
Post by: glader60 on November 13, 2007, 05:51:22 am
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Custom modified Evo aluminium s/arm (to stiffen rear end flex),custom s/arm sealed bearing conversion.
Also comes with a brand new carbon s/arm already modified to fit with the sealed bearings.
Owned from new,size large.
Simon.

I hope you were able to keep the needle bearings for the swing arm pivot. That has to be the best, most rigid designs ever for a swing arm pivot. Way more lateral stiffness than any ball bearing designs. Besides ball bearing are for spinning round and round or they'll wear out quick in one area. I've had the same set of needles bearings in my 4000 for since 1999 while other friends with ball bearing pivots couldn't get even go 2 years before extreme play in the pivot required new bearing.

The again, maybe you had to sacrifice the rigid pivot of the EVO frame if your carbon frame was not able to adapt to the EVO pivot type?

Regardless, you have a very rare bike that should bring at least $1000 to the right K2 buyer....
Title: Re: Whats it worth ?
Post by: Simon on November 13, 2007, 07:24:28 am
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I hope you were able to keep the needle bearings for the swing arm pivot. That has to be the best, most rigid designs ever for a swing arm pivot. Way more lateral stiffness than any ball bearing designs. Besides ball bearing are for spinning round and round or they'll wear out quick in one area. I've had the same set of needles bearings in my 4000 for since 1999 while other friends with ball bearing pivots couldn't get even go 2 years before extreme play in the pivot required new bearing.

The again, maybe you had to sacrifice the rigid pivot of the EVO frame if your carbon frame was not able to adapt to the EVO pivot type?

Regardless, you have a very rare bike that should bring at least $1000 to the right K2 buyer....


No the evo s/arm is the same for the needle bearing system or the bush system.
The carbon frame can't run the same needle system as the evo.
Mine run on my owned designed 4 sealed precision bearing system that replaces the bush system,no more stiction.Been using this for around 4 years now.
Also converted my 856,plus other bikes 857,Oz.