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General => Tech Forum => Topic started by: seanzzo on May 02, 2006, 09:07:15 am

Title: Back to the thought of frame up build
Post by: seanzzo on May 02, 2006, 09:07:15 am

What do you guys think of the Sette Riddik
http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/14968-175_SETRD5-3-Parts-60-Frames/Sette-Riddik-XC-Frame-w/-Manitou-Swinger-Air-SPV-4-Way-offerIN050BB1.htm

http://www.pricepoint.com/riddik_images.htm

I ride xc mainly and a little dh,  any and all thoughts or recommendations appreciated
Gonzzo Seanzzo

Title: Re: Back to the thought of frame up build
Post by: Simon on May 02, 2006, 10:01:03 am

I know nothing about this frame BUT
it looks incredable value with that shock :P,
not really aimed at XC with that geometry,
short TT and effective TT not too XC there,but the chainstay length should give good climbing,
full compliment cartridge bearings as well,
faux bar suspension,Turners just gone back to that with rave reviews,
sounds ideal for the type of riding you described,
first impression I like the look of it.

Simon.

Title: Re: Back to the thought of frame up build
Post by: shovelon on May 02, 2006, 11:27:48 am

That is a great price for the frameset. The shock itself goes for about that price.

The only observation I can comment on is that the anti-bob properties are very dependant on the shock. So the 4-way is very necessary. A lot of platform pressure will be needed to overcome the pivot loctions. It looks to me that the swingarm pivot is only just above the BB. And the brake stays are not horst link, but very high, maybe higher than the  swingarm pivot. Could prove to be a very chaotic ride. But who knows untill it is built and tried.

But I like that shock! [smiley=nod.gif]

Terry

Title: Re: Back to the thought of frame up build
Post by: seanzzo on May 02, 2006, 12:17:18 pm

 :oI'm really not that up on the lingo so could you please explain horst link and the pivot location looks quite close to my 855

Title: Re: Back to the thought of frame up build
Post by: shovelon on May 03, 2006, 03:43:45 am

The whole idea of the Horst link, a rear pivot design that Specialized owns and uses, is that the rear wheel will try to tuck under the frame when pedaling, thereby cancelling the tendency of the frame bobbing down. This was also called a fully active rear travel.

For the last ten or so years, other bike makers liscensed the design from  Specialized. Now that platform shocks came out, they can bypass the Horst link.

Proflex was using the High single front pivot design which also cancellled out pedal induced bobbing. It was called semi-active because you could feel the lockout when pedaling.

So, the less anti-bob properties, the more the rear will squat when pedaling. So if you add a platform shock, you can semi-lock the squating until that desired pressure is overcome and the shock releases. The only thing is that it will be very noticable. I would liken it to an intertia valve shock that has to absorb alot of impact before it releases.

Even with my Swingers, very little platform is used but I can feel them release at the desired time. That is a good thing in moderation.

But I just be overcautious. I may come to love the high degree of platform if the suspension design would allow it.

Enough of my rambling,
Terry

Title: Re: Back to the thought of frame up build
Post by: seanzzo on May 03, 2006, 07:03:19 am

Thank you for the input "allways looking to learn"

Title: Re: Back to the thought of frame up build
Post by: seanzzo on May 05, 2006, 03:00:27 pm

SO does anyone else have any sugestions as to a good frame to start with

Title: Re: Back to the thought of frame up build
Post by: Matno on May 05, 2006, 03:06:18 pm

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SO does anyone else have any sugestions as to a good frame to start with

I like the EVO frames for general trail riding/XC/mild downhill...
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