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Title: 957 single speed????
Post by: tim on April 08, 2006, 06:06:45 am
has anyone done it?
How about just leaving the rear cluster and using just one chain ring ? I'm thinking about it because my front derailieur it a BITCH to adjust as there are only millimeters between the scres and the swing arm!
Any help would be appreciated....maybe I just need a new front derailieur.... ?
thanks
-tim
Title: Re: 957 single speed????
Post by: jeffhop on April 08, 2006, 09:38:25 am
i cant see how you can have such a problem when there are so many 957 riders on here riding about without a problem.
Title: Re: 957 single speed????
Post by: willem on April 08, 2006, 12:03:27 pm
You've got to ask yourself... How much do I need to shift the front end? Do my trails require that much range? Are 3 front chainrings necessary to get me down the trail, or are they just bling?

I really enjoy my single chain ring 856. (Picture under my old gallery "Will." See last pic in album.)

Took out lots of weight and complexity. Only one shifter! A lot less cable, too.

You'll need either a chain roller or abash guard to keep the chain on, but it's beautifully simple to ride. [smiley=beer.gif]
Title: Re: 957 single speed????
Post by: rapiddescent on April 14, 2006, 02:05:40 am
yes.

Jeff (on of the UK proflexers) had a singlespeed proflex 957 that he raced at the SS world cup in 2001 in Wales, UK.  I also used to use my 856 as a singlespeeder.  

great bikes and become ever-so-light with singlespeed.

Use a 32 front chainring on the middle spider and use spacers for a 16T on the rear in the middle as well to get a straight chain.  A surly singulator finishes the job to keep the chain tight.

callum
rds
Title: Re: 957 single speed????
Post by: whisperdancer on April 15, 2006, 07:35:43 am
You can always get your hands on a Rohloff hub...

:P
Title: Re: 957 single speed????
Post by: Matno on April 15, 2006, 09:25:05 am
I'm still waiting for someone to perfect the "Rohloff hub within the bottom bracket" concept. The hub is awesome, but it's too much unsprung weight for a full suspension frame... Having it in front would be perfect. I know it's been tried, but nobody has marketed it to the masses yet.
Title: Re: 957 single speed????
Post by: proflex252 on April 15, 2006, 09:52:41 am
You think about something like that?

(http://idriders.com/proflex/galleries/proflex252/getriebeoffensive.jpg)

the g-boxx 1 is with the roloff
and the g-boxx 2 with a chain/gear device

kalle nicolai is about to get the shifting revolution started.
Title: Re: 957 single speed????
Post by: proflex252 on April 15, 2006, 10:02:10 am
And this is the 2004 Nicolai Nucleon TFR Bike with the rohloff as a gearbox (G-Boxx 1)

(http://www.g-boxx.org/english/dateien/inhalt/bikes/img/nuc04side.jpg)

and here the Alutech Wildsau with the G-Boxx 1

(http://www.g-boxx.org/english/dateien/inhalt/bikes/img/alutec-Getriebebike-re-gr.jpg)
Title: Re: 957 single speed????
Post by: sammydog on April 15, 2006, 11:55:47 pm
Quote
Use a 32 front chainring on the middle spider and use spacers for a 16T on the rear in the middle as well to get a straight chain.  A surly singulator finishes the job to keep the chain tight.


The only thing that has stopped me rebuilding the 855 as a single speed has been that I wasn't sure how a singulator would go in conjunction with rear wheel travel.

Now I've read this, I'm getting the shock sorted (just got a fox float RP'3 and am getting an adapter machined) and the bike will be sweet.

cheers.
Title: Re: 957 single speed????
Post by: willem on April 16, 2006, 12:15:21 pm
Ah the lovely nicolai... Some beautiful engineering and a decent result.
Only two tiny details keeping it from my bike rack (besides the $$$) ::):

That bad boy is OMG heavy.
Still has a chain.

When they get lighter by taking the primary torque reduction gearing out (i.e. the cranks turn the primary gears, not a reduction gear or chain) it will be a rational design.

When the chain is replaced with something 21st century-ish, it will be a "revolution."

Until someone, or some company, spends the time and money to figure this out, it's pretty much a purple anodized biopace experiment headed for the "hmmm... that's interesting" corner of the mountain bike museum.

All that said, I'd still love a Rohloff disk hub on my "other" bike.

Title: Re: 957 single speed????
Post by: Tel on April 17, 2006, 07:24:04 am
Hi chaps, I think this may be a little lighter according to a mate who`s in the know.
It may start to appear on XC bikes soon its pretty much a carbon gear box. From what he`s managed to find out about it`s quite light too, but he races and writes about DH. Looks interesting though.
   Tel. [smiley=beer.gif]
http://www.honda.co.jp/HDTV/MTB/rn01-gearbox/