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General => Tech Forum => Topic started by: Adam Lamberson on January 18, 2006, 05:41:25 pm

Title: New company making the crosslink?
Post by: Adam Lamberson on January 18, 2006, 05:41:25 pm
Has anyone else seen the Look brand forks that look like an updated crosslink? I saw them on ebay. They are called Look Fournales. Ediscountbike has them. Are they any good? It says they can run discs or vbrakes. If anyone knows anything about them let me know. I am seriously considering one for my 757.
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: New company making the crosslink?
Post by: shovelon on January 19, 2006, 01:50:33 am
Hi Adam,

 These forks have been around for a couple of years now. 2 members of this forum are using these already. One is K2perv. Look in his gallery for pictures.

 Watch out for the size tough. What I have seen available is size small, which will not fit some of the bikes. Like my large 957 can't accept a small.

Terry
Title: Re: New company making the crosslink?
Post by: Colin on January 19, 2006, 04:51:49 am
I doubt a Small would fit any of our bikes, as it's meant for <137mm Headtubes (inc. Headset)
a Medium will do 137-157mm
Large goes 157 to 172mm
and Xl is 172 to 187mm

I can't see them on eDiscountBike's website.....?
http://corporate.marketworks.com/StoreFrontProfiles/deluxeSFshop.aspx?sid=1&sfid=100961&c=0&search_text=fournales

Fournales tell me there is no possibility of modifying a Small into a Medium, despite there probably being just one or two unique parts...............

http://www.fournales.fr/site_ang/page_vtt/suspension_fourche11.html

I fancy a pair because of the increased travel (80mm), air shock and disk mount.............
...............still too scared to modify my Carbon X-Links to Disk.

Both Disk mount and V-Brake mounts are removable.




Title: Re: New company making the crosslink?
Post by: Frankd3000 on January 19, 2006, 10:18:20 am
CONFIRMED! He has TWO of them - both small. :( Look up "Fournales" on E-Bay and they're both with a starting bid of $349.77 U.S.

These have gone anywhere between $350-500 U.S. in the past 2 months.
Title: Re: New company making the crosslink?
Post by: jeffhop on January 19, 2006, 12:49:58 pm
i keep seeing these forks on ebay and have been really tempted, i think i started a new thread on them in the summer, only trouble is the sizing, the small size is very small like colin says up to 137mm head tube which is tiny! plus the fact that they are only 80 grammes lighter than my manitous kinda puts me off but they are one seriously cool looking fork and in my opinion  they are what the x-link should have morphed into.
Title: Re: New company making the crosslink?
Post by: kiwi on January 20, 2006, 12:46:51 pm
I thought that proflex x56 x55 and x57 had very short head tubes to accept the crosslink/girvin vector.I am certain my waybig 756 has a headtube around 130mm...
Title: Re: New company making the crosslink?
Post by: jeffhop on January 21, 2006, 02:52:14 am
maybe ive got the wrong end of the stick here but i would have thought the measurement would be with the headset in situ, in which case both my med oz and xpx are 155mm top to bottom. the headtube is itself 130mm
Title: Re: New company making the crosslink?
Post by: Simon on January 21, 2006, 04:56:50 am
Headtube on an Oz 122mm
on a worldcup frame (18" frame)120mm
Headtube sizes are given without headsets fitted,too many variables in various headset stack heights.

Simon.
Title: Re: New company making the crosslink?
Post by: jeffhop on January 21, 2006, 05:51:30 am
ahhh bugger had a slip of the rule there  :-[ simons right.
Title: Re: New company making the crosslink?
Post by: kiwi on January 21, 2006, 08:10:09 am
so whats the verdict...is the 137mm he tak
lks about OVER the headset too??
Title: Re: New company making the crosslink?
Post by: jeffhop on January 21, 2006, 11:06:28 am
ive been doing a bit of ebay digging and have come up with the following about the fournales fork small up to 137mm i think it must be including headset cos the guy who is selling them on ebay says that the large fits
This fork is size "L"- (Large)  and will fit bike with steerer tube + headset 157, to 172mm

i pinched a bit of his ebay listing but i think the 137mm would include a headset ie its a small frame,  so a medium frame would need a medium size fork!

anyone want to buy a kidney? i fancy one of these! ;)
Title: Re: New company making the crosslink?
Post by: Frankd3000 on January 21, 2006, 12:12:00 pm
The Fournales sizing is given as the end result of the headtube WITH whatever headset you are running. The total stacked height of the two combined.

It should be viewed along the same line's as Noleen's Critical Size measurement with the CrossLink's. The measurement, after the fact.
Title: Re: New company making the crosslink?
Post by: kiwi on January 21, 2006, 02:48:38 pm
Dang...I have been looking too,and although he says he has other sizes all i can find are smalls,i think i need at least a med probably a large
Title: Re: New company making the crosslink?
Post by: jeffhop on January 21, 2006, 09:16:00 pm
heres a large link for you kiwi

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7211838480&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT
Title: Re: New company making the crosslink?
Post by: whisperdancer on January 27, 2006, 10:55:29 pm
It is said this fork has little tolerance at small bumps, a thing that crosslinks are acclaimed for...
Or you have a very hard fork with no sensivity for small bumps, or you have a bottoming fork at harder bumps.
I never tried one, so I would like anyone to confirm this...
Title: Re: New company making the crosslink?
Post by: loaded on January 28, 2006, 08:16:11 am
Found an XL on there too
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Look-VTT-Fournales-Carbon-Kinetic-Shock-Fork-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ7210205791QQcategoryZ36135QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: New company making the crosslink?
Post by: kiwi on January 28, 2006, 08:17:16 am
Quote
It is said this fork has little tolerance at small bumps, a thing that crosslinks are acclaimed for...
Or you have a very hard fork with no sensivity for small bumps, or you have a bottoming fork at harder bumps.
I never tried one, so I would like anyone to confirm this...

a common criticism of most air spring/shock systems
The seals which obviously must be air tight cause stiction...wether or not its true is another thing
Title: Re: New company making the crosslink?
Post by: K2perv on February 13, 2006, 03:30:36 am
k2perv here.  i've been riding that look/fournales fork for some time now and i really like it!  seems to work great on smaller bumps (i ride mostly fast rocky singletrack) and big stuff (ten days in moab).  i like the travel as compared to the crosslink, although it isn't a big hit fork.

a medium would have fit my bike perfectly but i couldn't find one and bought a large on ebay.  it sits up a few cm higher and turned out to be perfect.  just threw a couple of carbon spacers in.  i think the medium might have required me to buy some riser bars.  ithe stem clamps to a part of the fork that screws on (!) so i was a little worried at first, but i've pounded the @#% out of this thing and wiped out a couple of times with no damage.

i'd recommend them to anyone who likes the crossling design!

.....................................anthony.
Title: Re: New company making the crosslink?
Post by: Carbonman1 on February 13, 2006, 11:35:18 am
I have also been riding the Look Fournales for a couple of years, and I love mine.  The way the shock is set up makes it very plush on the small stuff but still able to tolerate bigger trail hits.  I can also just bunny hop things without much thought.  I weigh around 185 lbs and I've given this fork a pretty good hammering.  It keeps coming back for more.  At pressures below 150lbs. the fork can produce some dive, but I don't find it a problem.  It is where the X-link should have gone.  IMHO.