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General => Tech Forum => Topic started by: SLIM on October 12, 2005, 08:11:15 am

Title: LONG TRAVEL KIT
Post by: SLIM on October 12, 2005, 08:11:15 am
 RDI Long travel kit on UK e bay
99p at the mo £10.00 postage though
sorry cant link it no good at the techie stuff
good luck
Title: Re: LONG TRAVEL KIT
Post by: Simon on October 12, 2005, 09:46:06 am
Good find Slim,
here it is,comes with speedspring as well,
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Proflex-K2-Rapid-Descent-Innovations-LTK-Longtravel-kit_W0QQitemZ7189155287QQcategoryZ109119QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Simon.
Title: Re: LONG TRAVEL KIT
Post by: jeffhop on October 12, 2005, 11:47:15 am
mmmmmmmmm very interesting, ive still got my xpx as it never sold, might have to keep an eye on this. one other thing, i was at a lbs today after i bought a set of sram 9 shifters and rear mech from them of ebay ( £16 bargain ) and the guy in there told me that they used to be a proflex dealer and that they had (his words) `a 100% breakage rate on the proflexes they sold` only trouble was he didnt tell me what broke on them i might have to go back and find out more. unless of course he was just trying to get me to buy one of the over weight konas or over priced treks.
Title: Re: LONG TRAVEL KIT
Post by: rapiddescent on October 13, 2005, 12:01:03 am
crikey.  Even I don't have one of these and i made all of them!  You will need a super stiff spring to make it work.  I used an 856 with the LTK in the 1998 pedalhounds DH and so did our two riders at the time.

They'll fit on the 856, 956, XPX bikes.  We never had one fail or break in all those years.  

callum
rds
Title: Re: LONG TRAVEL KIT
Post by: rapiddescent on October 13, 2005, 12:03:12 am
just noticed that the mspro spring hasn't got end caps - but don't worry, if you win it then get in touch with me and we'll get you some endcaps that work and also a bottom - out protector.

callum
rds
Title: Re: LONG TRAVEL KIT
Post by: Colin on October 13, 2005, 03:12:53 am
Callum,
What does this kit weigh in at?
Does it replace the rear strut on an x56 ??
or work with it?
Got any old photos of one fitted?
What does it actually do??
(I know....... it's a Long Travel Kit..........<GRIN>)

Col.
Title: Re: LONG TRAVEL KIT
Post by: Wankel on October 13, 2005, 03:41:02 am
Hmm... I have an old 856 just WAITing to be resurrected,  This would be a cool addition to it .... Hmmm  8). I imagine that shipping to the states would kill me though.  [smiley=blankstare.gif]. Looking at how I think it would mount - I bet it looks wild! ;D

Chad

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......They'll fit on the 856, 956, XPX bikes.  We never had one fail or break in all those years. ......

Title: Re: LONG TRAVEL KIT
Post by: Matno on October 13, 2005, 03:51:41 am
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the guy in there told me that they used to be a proflex dealer and that they had (his words) `a 100% breakage rate on the proflexes they sold` only trouble was he didnt tell me what broke on them i might have to go back and find out more.


My LBS buddy who used to sell them said the same thing, but specifically referring to the shocks. Especially the smart shocks. He said they just waited for people to come in to get them warrantied. Not that he didn't warn them. People really went for the "hype" of the Smartness... I think my father-in-law's NR-5 on his '98 5000 lasted a record 5 years, but that's only because he never rides it (and when he does, it's usually on the road). It's dead now - finally blew a seal. (Not that he notices the difference. I put my Astro-5 on his bike this summer, as well as an X-vert fork, and he said he liked it much better, but I doubt he cares enough to pony up the cash to upgrade on his own...)  I don't know why they couldn't just make those seals a little more durable. The concept was a good one.
Title: Re: LONG TRAVEL KIT
Post by: Wankel on October 13, 2005, 04:10:35 am
Jeff,



  I agree with you 1000%.  I rode down to a  LBS (that I NEVER go into)  last week to pick up a new chaintool and had a gent that was in there tell me that "..those plastic bikes like you have there are WORTHLESS!" (as he was pointing to my OZ),... "I had a friend that broke both his in half and it went into a gazilion pieces ... etc etc etc-more rambling...etc".  I just looked at him (he was a customer that was looking at a Kona) and said to him. "Well, I'm real sorry for your friend.  Guess he didn't treat his bikes real well... etc.". (trying to be as nice as I could - that's just the way I try to be - MOST of the time ;) ).. The guy replied, " Well, he just hasn't had much luck with those Huffys"... as he points to my bike.  I just busted out laughing - I couldn't hold it in.  One of the LBS workers (a young punk kid  - sorry that wasn't nice to say ;) )  heard what the guy said  - and said " These Kona's won't break, you can ride these off a cliff ... yada yada ,etc... blah - blah ,  yamer ..." as he points to his highest priced Kona (trying to make a quick sell). I just turned around and left - laughing all the way out of the shop. Guess I'll go to a REAL bike shop next time :) .







-Chad



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......, i was at a lbs today ......and the guy in there told me that they used to be a proflex dealer and that they had (his words) `a 100% breakage rate on the proflexes they sold........ unless of course he was just trying to get me to buy one of the over weight konas or over priced treks.




Title: Re: LONG TRAVEL KIT
Post by: Frankd3000 on October 13, 2005, 05:03:02 am
Not that i'm interested in buying it... when I first saw those kits on the old site I droooooooled - LARGE! What an ingenious creation!!!!! Cudos to RDI!!!

2 Q's;

1) where does it bolt to on the top? The shock-to-frame mount??

2) Anyone have any pictures? EDIT (just noticed that Colin asked also)

I'd buy this just to say I have it. One of VERY few items that I can say this about! Why does all the really NEAT stuff have to be "over there"? You lucky guys!

Dammit Slim! Why did you have to post this! Now I can't stop thinking about it! [smiley=disbelief.gif] I DON'T need it. I don't NEED it. I don't need IT.
Title: Re: LONG TRAVEL KIT
Post by: Colin on October 13, 2005, 10:40:01 am
NEED...........................?

Hmmmmm, that's an interesting concept...........

I don't NEED an expensive obscure American Mountain Bike(s) from an out of business manufacturer................

Think more along the lines of........I WANT......!
Title: Re: LONG TRAVEL KIT
Post by: jeffhop on October 13, 2005, 12:12:55 pm
the guy selling the kit has emailed me the instructions and pics of the kit on a bike, looks well funky!! im seriously tempted. ive even got a fairly hard spring on my shock as well so it would be perfect, mmmmmmmmm.........................me want!

anyone want the pics and info email me and ill send them to you.  

jeffhop75@hotmail.com
Title: Re: LONG TRAVEL KIT
Post by: jeffhop on October 13, 2005, 12:37:21 pm
ive added the instructions and pics to my galley if anyone wants to have a look.
Title: Re: LONG TRAVEL KIT
Post by: Frankd3000 on October 13, 2005, 03:20:10 pm
Thanks Jeffhop - you've answered both my questions in one swoop.

And thanks for being a total tease. Bugger!

Congrats on you 100th post.

I NEED my money for wheels and cranks. I NEED my money for wheels and cranks. I NEED my mon....
Title: Re: LONG TRAVEL KIT
Post by: jeffhop on October 13, 2005, 03:44:42 pm
thanks frankd  didnt realise it was my 100th post! guess this must be my 101st! I just bought a truvativ stylo gxp giga xpipe chainset and b/b for the oz off ebay  and will now put the ac cranks on my xpx. i know the wife is keen on trying out the xpx for size its a very good excuse to build the xpx back up with good parts!!  as maybe her bad knee will stop her from riding it  :(  on the good side is i get another bike to do what i want with... evenn if it is my old one>>> lol
Title: Re: LONG TRAVEL KIT
Post by: rapiddescent on October 13, 2005, 10:38:41 pm
here is an old picture from our press launch in 1995.

(http://www.proflex.demon.co.uk/photos/PRESS2.GIF)

The kit bolts onto the existing bike and makes a 4 bar link.  It is really heavy - we made it out of solid Al - in fact, I still have one in the workshop that has holes drilled all the way up it.  It has teflon bushings and we totally overengineered it.

The kit needs a realy stiff spring.  An MSPRO6 or 7 for most people.  Of course, if I was still making them then I would be making even stiffer COR springs for it.

We also made one for the 97 beast /animal called an LTK 9596EX.  Mad mad travel.  about 6" usable travel and it was just way too much.  the back wheel would never leave the ground and you could cushion massive bumps!  like logs!!

callum
rds
Title: Re: LONG TRAVEL KIT
Post by: Wankel on October 14, 2005, 05:01:11 am
Nice!!! :) . That would look WikKKed cool on my 856 !

Very nice Callum!
Title: Re: LONG TRAVEL KIT
Post by: Frankd3000 on October 14, 2005, 05:19:49 am
Uhhh, Callum, what fork is on the bike in your pic? :o

That's not a carbon CrossLink. Black Chubby? No, too early. Maybe an RS DC? Judy?
Title: Re: LONG TRAVEL KIT
Post by: rapiddescent on October 16, 2005, 10:18:42 pm
that bike had an old RST Hi-5 which later became licenced by Girvin to be the Girvin Chubby.

Fork was OK because we modified the internals to use a mixture of coil springs and elastomers.  felt quite good and was extremely cheap.

so many old school things in that photo:
+ remember when people used film in their SLR cameras?
+ a shiney new Rover 200 parked there - they are mostly rusty old cars nowadays
+ Shimano DX pedals! (BC = Before Cook Bros)

callum
rds