K2 / Proflex Riders Group
General => Tech Forum => Topic started by: Carbon_Angus on February 04, 2003, 02:12:07 pm
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(http://www.trekbikes.com/images/bikes/2003/road/large/52002.jpg)
my LBS had a deal i couldn't refuse. i may get flamed by some for posting a *road* bike here, but variety is the spice of life (at least as far as bikes go... ;D yes i am getting the black pearl frame paint job. only problem is which mare to send out to pasture, (side of the house) my garage is full.
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is that a nice bike?
i dont know jack about raodie stuff...
p.s. looks kinda hard to ride with no pedals... ;)
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That is an awesome bike!!! That is the OCLV Carbon frame similar to what Lance Armstrong rides for the USPS team.
Enjoy, this bike will fly!!! My brother has almost the same frame and it is amazing how much the frame dampens road vibrations.
I'm jealous now.
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Carbon Angus
That is a wonderful piece of engineering, and I can see why you really are 'Carbon Angus'.
However, shouldn't you change your name to 'Magpie' for not being able to throw out some of your ex-bikes? Just how many do you have??
I just have my Oz!
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Dang you! >:( There you go again, making me jealous! That is one of my two dream road bike frames. It's the more expensive of the two, so it's probably not going to happen, but it's okay to drool... I'll probably spring for a C'dale CAAD 4 or 5 frame sometime this year. I've already got all the new components I want on my old Schwinn frame, but I think my frame actually ADDS vibration to the road! I'm working on new tires for now to see if that helps. If not, OUT goes the Schwinn... Kind of sad since I've been riding it for 11 years now, but hey, if it's anything like replacing my hardtail, I'll have ZERO regrets!!! 8)
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oooohhh niiiice mmeeeee liiike..three chainrings ya wimp!!!!! mmm be good up paekak hill though :D
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I was wondering about that myself. Does yours have a triple chainring? I've always thought that seemed kind of pointless unless you are touring (i.e. with heavy gear) or riding REALLY steep hills. I do have a 12-27 cassette, but only a double in the front. Does a triple come in handy much?
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I was wondering about that myself. Does yours have a triple chainring? I've always thought that seemed kind of pointless unless you are touring (i.e. with heavy gear) or riding REALLY steep hills. I do have a 12-27 cassette, but only a double in the front. Does a triple come in handy much?
yeah it has a triple, there are road hills here, too and yes i plan to tour sometime this summer or fall, hopefully. ? for you and others who road..what kinda seat do you use?
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[quoteHowever, shouldn't you change your name to 'Magpie' for not being able to throw out some of your ex-bikes? Just how many do you have??
I just have my Oz![/quote]
Oz, 857 (SINGLESPEED ;) ), Trek 8000, old Rockhopper, then my son has two bikes and my wife and daughter have one each. it's hard to throw out old bikes, the Rockhopper is actually over at a buddy's for him to ride, so it's his, now, so that's out.
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For you and others who road..what kinda seat do you use?
Right now I'm riding a Koobi Xenon. I like it, but it's not perfect. It's a fairly flat saddle, and the "frame" kind of flares out on the sides. Almost a sharp edge where my legs rub. I only notice it occasionally (I ride in different positions - tops, drops, and aerobars), but when I notice it, it's not good. On the other hand, I haven't been riding enough lately for any saddle to be all that comfy on a long road ride. Maybe I'll try it today (it's a nice warm 32 deg F, but the stupid wind is blowing hard). I just got two new pairs of biking shorts (my first "serious" chamois), and I haven't really given either a serious test yet...
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Another carbon frame, cool.
I am just about to order (as soon as I hear price on silver-tinted clearcoat over weave with blue/silver decals - sound familiar?) an Aegis Victory.
I looked at the Trek , but since I have a bunch of Campy Record components, am going to build up a Victory. its a cool bike, as is your Trek.
by the way, I ride an SDG Satellite. a really comfy saddle, just ordered a new custom one for the new Aegis. blue leather top, chrome sides, gray kevlar corners.
Matno, get some chamois creme too, It makes a HUGE difference in comfort.
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No I have just a dual chain ring and a 23 12 on the rear.We do have lotsa hills round here so i was thinking of a 27 or 25
As for seats well,that is tricky,until i got my road bike a seat was a seat but i have had so much discomfort from my road bike that i now cannot ride any distance at all....currently i have a koobi on the road bike ..prolly the best i have tried...going to try a specialized body geometry :(
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Wow. Tires make a huge difference. Apparently a large part of the reason my frame vibrates so much is that I've been overinflating the tires. I had no idea. I've been riding them at 100-110psi for years (they're Conti 700x28's and the max psi is 120). Several people over at Roadbikereview suggested I try lower, so today I went down to 80psi. MUCH smoother. Maybe I don't need a new frame after all. I am also going to try more supple tires. I just got a good deal on a Conti GP3000 last night on eBay ($6.50!), so now I just have to find a second one! Had a great ride (my first real ride in about 4 weeks other than just jumping around the stairs and curbs on my 5000). I bonked hard after about 16 miles of fast riding (averaged close to 20mph the last 9 miles!), but fortunately, my ride was only 17 miles long... :P
Kiwi, a 12-27 cassette should help on the hills quite a bit. I sometimes wish I had a granny gear on long uphills, but they're entirely doable with that 27 cog...
As for Body Geometry saddles, watch out for the old ones. I've heard the newer (narrower) ones are an improvement, but the old ones were horrible. Super comfy for about the first 5 miles, then pain. I'm not sure how that works since it wasn't from rubbing. It really felt like that plush saddle just got hard, but it certainly wasn't fun. Not to mention way too wide for technical riding.
If you're looking for a narrower, lightweight road saddle, I've heard really good things about the Serfas DDVado and the Serfas Terazzo. I've actually ridden the Vado, and it was indeed narrow, but also more padded than most. Hard to tell on just one 20 mile ride.
Also, the good old SpeedV worked quite well on the road bike. Only thing I didn't like it for was leaning way forward on my aerobars (which I'm thinking of removing anyway as soon as I can afford STI shifters... I'll keep them for really long rides, but most of the time, they just add an extra pound, rattle annoyingly, and aren't really necessary). My SpeedV is lighter than most, so maybe one of their lighter versions like the LaserV might be better. I've heard conflicting opinions though, and I prefer my one of a kind (far as I can tell) Speed V over my wife's standard (more padded) Speed V.
Finally, have you ever ridden a Selle Italia Flite? There is a good reason why they have been the most popular road/XC saddle for something like 15 years. I'm still debating getting another one. The one I had was old and kind of stiffened up, but it was still as comfy as any saddle I've ridden to date. I'd love to try one of the newer gel models if I can find the right deal (mine had gel in the middle, but not under the sit bones, which is the only place I ever get sore).
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thanks Matno, i have a Selle Trans Am on my hardtail so i will try that right away, the saddle that comes with the 5200 is okay, just okay
i'm gonna just slap on some mt. spd pedals, maybe Ritchey or Bontragers and go from there. i really don't want to get into a separate pair of shoes/pedals right away
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well, i just did it.
just ordered a new Aegis Victory for the road.
now I will be able to ride carbon wherever I go.
next up, carbon fiber car! (I wish., maybe if I win the lottery). :-[
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well, i just did it.
just ordered a new Aegis Victory for the road
pics please!!!!! :-/ ;D
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i'm gonna just slap on some mt. spd pedals, maybe Ritchey or Bontragers and go from there. i really don't want to get into a separate pair of shoes/pedals right away
I use Ritchey V2 comps on my road bike. I wanted to get something more compatible with my Shimano 434's on the K2 so a couple of weeks ago I bought a pair of M515's. I'm not thinking it was the greatest idea. The Shimano's are noticeably heavier than the Ritcheys. Haven't messed around with the tension settings on them much, but so far, I'm not too impressed. (The actual weight difference is only about 50g, but it makes a big difference when holding them in my hand. Not noticeable while riding, but of course, every little concession like that adds up on a road bike... So, I guess I'm saying I like the Ritchey's... However, one caveat: they're not as compatible with Shimano cleats as I would like. They work, but clipping in and releasing requires quite a bit more effort. Not that big of a deal on a road bike (I can't remember the last time I had to bail!), but annoying. The Ritchey cleats don't really work in my Shimano pedals at all. Just a heads up.
I'll post again after I get more time to mess with the settings on the Shimano 515's. Won't be anytime soon though. We got about 7 inches of snow today!!! :o It sucks. I'm very ready for winter to be over...
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thanks Matno, i have a Selle Trans Am on my hardtail so i will try that right away, the saddle that comes with the 5200 is okay, just okay
i'm gonna just slap on some mt. spd pedals, maybe Ritchey or Bontragers and go from there. i really don't want to get into a separate pair of shoes/pedals right away
You're bike deserves better!!! You're just going to have to step up and get road shoes and pedals. I tried to do the same thing when I built up my Serotta with Dura Ace and Mavic Cosmic Carbone wheels. There was just too much flex in MTB shoes to really enjoy the speed of a killer road bike like you have. It felt way too mushy.
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right now i am using Sidi Dominator (mega) for fat feet ;) ....i know about the compromises, i'm sure i'll give in sooner or later to get some road shoes/pedals...but for now i thikn i will hang with my mt.feet...one could go nuts gettng all road stuff for this bike but i see your point. it is a bike worthy of doing it right though.
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Kiwi,
I uploaded a pic of the Aegis from their website into the gallery. You can check it out there. :-X
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i run excactly the same pedals on my road and mtb......i am not going to tell you what thay are but hey were the business in 1996!!!!!
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check my gallery is you wish......
this baby is fast ;D
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Wow! That Fence just keeps getting better!
Does your Oz look like it's being left out over there in the far corner of the garage?
The bike is LUUUUUVVVVLLYY, and so is the Aegis Victory, what is the price difference between the two?
The coolness of the bike makes up for the uncoolness of the car in the picture.
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Wow! That Fence just keeps getting better!
Does your Oz look like it's being left out over there in the far corner of the garage?
The bike is LUUUUUVVVVLLYY, and so is the Aegis Victory, what is the price difference between the two?
The coolness of the bike makes up for the uncoolness of the car in the picture.
;D i won't tell my neighbor! don't worry the Oz is still my favorite ride. and I haven't a clue the price diff. between the two bikes. the retail for 5200 is about $2700, i got a great deal from my LBS, though. the 5200 is a whole different ride though..position, muscles used differently...different places to brake and shft...still getting acquainted with it all. but it's a real looker though. 8)
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actually, I just cancelled my order for the Aegis Victory. I went to my LBS who has a "fit bike" and we set it up for the Aegis, and it didn't fit me at all.
I think I am going to get a Calfee carbon. that frame fits me so much better, although that Trek 5200 looks just like a bike I would like. Maybe I will try that frame geometry,they are available frame only.
damn, I thought I had made my decision!!
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OK, don't shoot me for regressing to my Roadie roots, but here is the Ultimate Carbon Frame we should all put on our wish lists.
ftp://www.colnago.com
These are truly incredible bikes. Frames alone range from $3500 on up to well over $7000. One day, I hope to at least ride one let alone own one. The frames are incredible pieces of work. I better stop before I have an accident ...
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I had a mate who HAD a colagno frame.....
car + roofrack + bike + garage door= :( >:( :-[ :'(
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I had a mate who HAD a colagno frame.....
car + roofrack + bike + garage door= :( >:( :-[ :'(
Holy cow!!! That probably was the darkest day of his life and probably the most embarassing as well.
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Aegis Victory frame only is 1700. fork extra, custom paint or what they call the "bionic weave" ( a top layer of carbon to get the weave look, also stiffens frame by 15%, they say) is an additional 300 buck.
so, not cheap by any means.
they quoted me 2500 for frame with bionic weave and Reynolds Ouzo carbon fork to match with silver-tinted clearcoat on top.
the calfee I think I am going for is about 1600 with fork and maybe another 100 or so for the clearcoat effect I want. I am going to make a decision and order on Monday, between 5200 frame and Calfee.
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Holy cow!!! That probably was the darkest day of his life and probably the most embarassing as well.
that my friend is the understatement of the past millenium
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hey so i decided best to add to this post rather than start a whole new one especially when it concerns roadie.
i went ahead and got me some road shoes (Sidi Genius) and some Speedplay X2's...big difference!!!, i may get some Frogs for the Oz, WOW what a pedal system!!
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CA, I know the feeling (both about another carbon and a filled garage).
I got a Kestrel CSX last year and put a CS Xlink on it. It is a fast, light bike. And still, the k2 carbon is my top pick for most rides. It just climbs and ride better than even a lightweight hardtail. I was going to pick one and sell the other, but I just can't bring myself to do it.
I now have four bikes (two carb, two ti), and I really should sell one, as I only need three. (grin).