Regulators for phantoms

[C-Mac]

What regulators do you guys recommend for running a phantom, probably on CO2?  When I last played, I ran a WGP stock regulator from an autococker with good results.  The other regulator known to handle CO2 well was the Palmer Stabilizer.  Any others that you'd recommend?

Any regs you'd recommend against, whether for quality or for pressure range maxing out at 500psi, etc?

[thkyle]

It's got to be a HP reg. 500 psi isn't enough.

[Groovetastic]

Most will reccomend no reg at all. The benefits are often minimal at best on a phantom. I know some people use stabilizers to control co2 pressure on crazy hot days but thats it. 

[thkyle]

Puritans! 

It's fun, and they work, but I wouldn't suggest that you sink a lot of money into a fancy rapid recharging reg. It's just not that important.

You should be able to find something for around $30 that will handle all that a Phantom needs. I like old WGP Autococker regs. They are not expensive, can handle CO2, and most will deliver the higher operating pressures that you need.

A reg is only useful with CO2. Not worth it with HPA. It will keep you shooting at a consistent operating pressure all day. That is useful at the chronos, or if you get checked on the field. It is useful for accuracy with CO2 no matter what kind changes in the temp happen during the day.

Don't let the "purists" spoil your fun. They add bling and little more "mystery" to a pump that is already a little odd at most fields. People will spend hundreds of dollars on a "quad flip flop" ano job that doesn't do squat for performance, and then get all worked up over a regulator! 

[B]

$30-80 for a 1%  not worth the time or effort

[C-Mac]

Alright, smart guy, then how am I going to get the air from my bottomline to my vertical air kit?   Thanks for the advice!

[Unimoose]

Let's see....

You could use a gas through.
You could remove the pressure fitting from the valve and use micro/macro line
you could also use an air fitting to go through the VSC ASA directly to the bottomline seen here.

http://www.compulsivepaintball.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=13036#

[splattttttt]

If you're looking to lower the operating pressure. Or you want to use it as a velocity adjuster? Use a reg. If not, any old expansion would be fine.
I don't recommend either for use with twelvees though.

[PhileyOFish]

Even though I've never ran it, theoretically I think I'd recommend an expansion chamber if you are going bottomline setup with Co2. A Phantom with a 3.5oz in the vertical position and a good paint/match is insanely consistent. So if you are running a bottomline, the expansion chamber should keep that liquid Co2 out and keep your consistency on par with the vertical setup.

If you are set on regs, the WGP and PPS ones should work. I'd probably stay away from CP because they max out at 300 or something low like that. Most of the new style regs don't go high.

[Chefdave]

Regs on Phantoms are kinda pointless IMHO.  They are just so damn consistent stock (especially VSC in my experience).

I did throw this setup together with some help of Ken (KPCS)/Twinky though just for fun.

[C-Mac]

Mainly just looking to keep the consistency that I knew and liked.  Now that I think about it, all I really have left is my 3.5 and 4 ounce tanks anyway, so I may as well just run the vertical setup.  I don't particularly care about operating pressure, neat frills, etc.  Black phantom VSC and I'm a happy camper.